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booju
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Feb 25, 2017 18:46 |  #1

What would be the best bang for my buck (older model) in the Sony Full-Frame line up?

Or another brand I should consider?

Used PRICE range?

I need something smaller than my dslr APS-C camera when traveling and thought it be a good time to get into a FULL FRAME sensor.

It would probably be glued to a 35mm and something a bit wider:-)

I would appreciate your suggestions/comments.

Thank you!


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Feb 26, 2017 22:49 |  #2

Are you willing to buy used?

I see used a7 bodies around $700, a7r used in the $900 range. Bang for buck, this is a steal for the IQ and small footprint you get.

Slap on a sub $400 28 f2 and you've got yourself a nice travel combo.


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Feb 27, 2017 00:47 |  #3

A7ii so that you get ibis and then an FE28 lens


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Feb 27, 2017 07:24 |  #4

xpfloyd wrote in post #18286341 (external link)
A7ii so that you get ibis and then an FE28 lens


This is my setup and I love it. Another thing to consider booju, will you be doing video shooting as well?


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Feb 27, 2017 14:26 |  #5

xpfloyd wrote in post #18286341 (external link)
A7ii so that you get ibis and then an FE28 lens

Quite true, and if the budget permits the extra $4-500 USD then that is a sweet combo for sure.

I was just going for pure image quality for the money.


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Mar 08, 2017 13:12 |  #6

I'm back...thanks a bunch folks!

To answer a few questions...

Yes, looking at buying used.

Video not important or necessary.

I enjoy shooting up-close portraits of people on my travels and in natural light.

My budget max will probably be the a7r and FE28 lens combo.

Good in low light situations???

Thank you for your replies!:-)


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Mar 08, 2017 16:17 |  #7

booju wrote in post #18295474 (external link)
I'm back...thanks a bunch folks!

To answer a few questions...

Yes, looking at buying used.

Video not important or necessary.

I enjoy shooting up-close portraits of people on my travels and in natural light.

My budget max will probably be the a7r and FE28 lens combo.

Good in low light situations???

Thank you for your replies!:-)

I bought my a7r in November of '15 for $1099 from either Adorama or B&H, can't remember TBH, in either 9/10 or E- condition. This was a deal, IMO, considering what kind of IQ the body was capable of. I have seen them around this price off and on since then, even as low as 900--maybe on the F/S forum here?

I really think that you will love the a7r for the kind of shooting you are describing.

I have heard and seen nothing but good things regarding the FE28. For a wide lens, I chose the A-mount Zeiss 24 F2 SSM because I got a great deal on it and because I could also use it on my A77ii. The FE28 was a lens I considered long and hard, as it would have paired nicely with my FE55--what I use 90% of the time.

While I can't speak to how well the FE28 focuses in low-light, I can tell you that the FE55 does a nice job.

While not apples-to-apples, here is a recent shot I took before the Mardi Gras parade at Universal Studios in Orlando with the Zeiss 24. I think you will get 98% of the IQ in the FE28, but again apples-to-apples maybe. This is ISO 6400, run through DXO Optics Elite 11 for de-noising (although I thought it looked pretty good without it!).

You could certainly nit-pick the image, and my sensor needs to be cleaned, but I'm still in love with my a7r.

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Mar 08, 2017 16:28 |  #8

One more ISO 6400 shot with the a7r, but this time taken at F1.8 with the FE55. PP and Noise reduction done in Photoshop.


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Mar 08, 2017 16:34 as a reply to mickeyb105's post |  #9

Hot pixel maybe rather than dirt on the sensor??? But not too difficult to manage in PP either way.


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Mar 08, 2017 16:40 |  #10

DaviSto wrote in post #18295652 (external link)
Hot pixel maybe rather than dirt on the sensor??? But not too difficult to manage in PP either way.

likely both :(

Edit: I checked the file and I think that what we thought was a hot pixel is some kind of artifact caused by random lights or fireworks from the Mardi Gras Parade.


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Mar 08, 2017 17:08 |  #11

@mickeyb105--- Fantastic!...I appreciate your reply and sharing these images.
I do believe the a7r and FE28 lens combo is what I need...Thank you very much!


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Mar 12, 2017 22:30 as a reply to booju's post |  #12

There is an a7r for sale in the F/S forum for $875.

http://photography-on-the.net .../showthread.php?t=1​477682


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Mar 13, 2017 20:42 as a reply to mickeyb105's post |  #13

Was that shot hand-held or on a tripod?

Looks great! Very clean for that ISO.

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Mar 13, 2017 22:56 |  #14

The Zeiss 35 2.8 is a really amazing lens. I think you can get them used for 4-500


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Mar 14, 2017 08:48 |  #15

Peter Stoffel wrote in post #18300262 (external link)
Was that shot hand-held or on a tripod?

Looks great! Very clean for that ISO.

~Peter

Both of the ISO 6400 pics were hand-held.

Thanks!


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