Approve the Cookies
This website uses cookies to improve your user experience. By using this site, you agree to our use of cookies. Read More.
OK
Index  •   • New posts  •   • RTAT  •   • 'Best of'  •   • Gallery  •   • Gear  •   • Reviews
New posts  •   • RTAT  •   • 'Best of'  •   • Gallery  •   • Gear  •   • Reviews
Register to forums    Log in

 
FORUMS General Gear Talk Changing Camera Brands
Thread started 04 Sep 2016 (Sunday) 14:49
Prev/next
sponsored links
(this ad will go away when you log in as registered member)

Whats the downsides to crop sensor vs full frame?

 
Wilt
Reader's Digest Condensed version of War and Peace [POTN Vol 1]
Wilt's Avatar
39,020 posts
Gallery: 1 photo
Joined Aug 2005
Belmont, CA
Mar 12, 2017 13:46 |  #61

AlanU wrote in post #18298810 (external link)
My only complaints of Canon crop sensors is that it lacks native f/2.8 UWA zoom.

I presume you mean the lack is 'Canon brand f/2.8 UWA zoom'...Tokina has their 11-16mm f/2.8


You need to give me OK to edit your image and repost! Keep POTN alive and well with member support http://photography-on-the.net/forum/donate.p​hp
Canon dSLR system, Olympus OM 35mm system, Bronica ETRSi 645 system, Horseman LS 4x5 system, Metz flashes, Dynalite studio lighting, and too many accessories to mention

LOG IN TO REPLY
sponsored links
(this ad will go away when you log in as registered member)
AlanU
Cream of the Crop
Joined Feb 2008
Vancouver, BC
Mar 12, 2017 14:15 as a reply to Wilt's post |  #62

Wilt, yes lack of crop sensor Canon UWA


5Dmkiv |5Dmkiii | 80D | 24LmkII | 35mm f/2 IS | 85 mkII L | 100L | EF-S 10-22 | 16-35L mkII | 24-70 f/2.8L mkii| 70-200 f/2.8 ISL mkII| 600EX-RT x2 | 580 EX II x2 | Einstein's
Fuji X-T2 w/battery booster | 16mm f/1.4 | 56 f/1.2 | 10-24 f/4.0 | 55-200 | EF-X500

LOG IN TO REPLY
johnf3f
Goldmember
johnf3f's Avatar
3,682 posts
Gallery: 1 photo
Joined Apr 2010
Wales
Mar 12, 2017 16:21 |  #63

"Whats the downsides to crop sensor vs full frame?"

Other than price and weight I can find little or no downside to full frame. Certainly some of this is down to the fact that FF cameras tend to have higher quality bodies and there is a much wider range of lenses specifically designed for them.

Personally I mostly use long lenses where the "Crop" bodies should be better - but they are not! Whilst they do offer a bit (less than you would expect) more reach they only do this under ideal conditions. This does not happen too often where I live!

Just a personal view - but if the likes of Canon/Nikon used their current technology to produce 12-14 MP APSC sensors and put them in their 7D2/D500 bodies then I would be at the front of the queue! Much as I like my 7D2 a 40% or so drop in pixel density would make it a much more useful camera:-)


Life is for living, cameras are to capture it (one day I will learn how!).

LOG IN TO REPLY
AlanU
Cream of the Crop
Joined Feb 2008
Vancouver, BC
Mar 12, 2017 21:50 |  #64

I will say I'd take even my 5dmk2 over my 80D for events photography with remote flash work during the reception. I'm still finding a cleaner look with my 5dmk2/5dmk3 with remote flash photography compared to my 80D. On print a client couldn't tell (nor could I) but on a 2k resolution 27" monitor with 100% sRGB gamut you can tell the difference between an 80D crop vs 5dmk2 or 5dmk3.

However I'll say I did get killer results recently shooting with my 80D during an event I shot (gift to parents childs bday).

I've analyzed my photos I've taken with my fuji. I'll have to say I often cannot tell the difference between my

fuji over my FF on many occasions. It all depends on the subject matter too!!

HOSTED PHOTO
please log in to view hosted photos in full size.
HOSTED PHOTO
please log in to view hosted photos in full size.

5Dmkiv |5Dmkiii | 80D | 24LmkII | 35mm f/2 IS | 85 mkII L | 100L | EF-S 10-22 | 16-35L mkII | 24-70 f/2.8L mkii| 70-200 f/2.8 ISL mkII| 600EX-RT x2 | 580 EX II x2 | Einstein's
Fuji X-T2 w/battery booster | 16mm f/1.4 | 56 f/1.2 | 10-24 f/4.0 | 55-200 | EF-X500

LOG IN TO REPLY
aladyforty
Goldmember
aladyforty's Avatar
Joined Dec 2005
Albany: Western Australia
Mar 12, 2017 22:15 |  #65

"Whats the downsides to crop sensor vs full frame?"

Im no expert on these things but for me its just something about the files, they have more substance, better colour etc. I do like fuji files a lot though. I use the 7DII mainly for birding and high action photography, its a great camera and I get many really nice photos from it however when I stick a 50 f1.2L or 135L on it the images just dont have that extra something the 5dIII has. I think having different formats is great, the down side for me is often having to choose which one to use. I do know one thing though, if I take the 5dIII out I get more keepers for everyday shots, more pleasing to look at photos as well.


5DIII 7DII Fuji X100 Fuji X10 17-40L 135L 70-200F4ISL Tamron 150-600
My Flickr https://www.flickr.com​/photos/25426422@N00/ (external link)
Birding page (archives cant add to them, lost password) https://www.flickr.com​/photos/59111660@N08/ (external link)

LOG IN TO REPLY
EverydayGetaway
Cream of the Crop
EverydayGetaway's Avatar
9,762 posts
Gallery: 1 photo
Joined Oct 2012
Bowie, MD
Mar 12, 2017 22:30 |  #66

aladyforty wrote in post #18299393 (external link)
"Whats the downsides to crop sensor vs full frame?"

Im no expert on these things but for me its just something about the files, they have more substance, better colour etc. I do like fuji files a lot though. I use the 7DII mainly for birding and high action photography, its a great camera and I get many really nice photos from it however when I stick a 50 f1.2L or 135L on it the images just dont have that extra something the 5dIII has. I think having different formats is great, the down side for me is often having to choose which one to use. I do know one thing though, if I take the 5dIII out I get more keepers for everyday shots, more pleasing to look at photos as well.

That's not really an apples to apples comparison though... the L lenses are all made for FF sensors, they're going to give you that "extra something" over when using them on a crop sensor every time.

The advantages become more narrow when manufacturers bother to design nicer lenses for their smaller formats. If you were to compare the EF 35/2 on your 5D to your X100 I think you'd discover that the differences are not as drastic as you think.


Fuji X-Pro2 // Fuji X-T1 // Fuji X-100T // XF 18mm f2 // Rokinon 12mm f2 // XF 35mm f1.4 // Rokinon 21mm f1.4 // XF 18-55mm f/2.8-4 // XF 55-200mm f3.5-4.8 // Rokinon 85mm f1.4 // Zhonghi Lensturbo ii // Various adapted MF lenses
flickr (external link) // Instagram (external link)

LOG IN TO REPLY
aladyforty
Goldmember
aladyforty's Avatar
Joined Dec 2005
Albany: Western Australia
Mar 12, 2017 22:59 |  #67

EverydayGetaway wrote in post #18299406 (external link)
That's not really an apples to apples comparison though... the L lenses are all made for FF sensors, they're going to give you that "extra something" over when using them on a crop sensor every time.

The advantages become more narrow when manufacturers bother to design nicer lenses for their smaller formats. If you were to compare the EF 35/2 on your 5D to your X100 I think you'd discover that the differences are not as drastic as you think.


Yes probably true the X100 for me is a bit love hate, I want to take it on an overseas trip this year as my main camera but I cant get past the images I think I may miss from my 5DIII :lol: just wish I could afford a fuji with perhaps one variable length lens to take as a second camera and I think Id leave full frame at home


5DIII 7DII Fuji X100 Fuji X10 17-40L 135L 70-200F4ISL Tamron 150-600
My Flickr https://www.flickr.com​/photos/25426422@N00/ (external link)
Birding page (archives cant add to them, lost password) https://www.flickr.com​/photos/59111660@N08/ (external link)

LOG IN TO REPLY
EverydayGetaway
Cream of the Crop
EverydayGetaway's Avatar
9,762 posts
Gallery: 1 photo
Joined Oct 2012
Bowie, MD
Post has been edited 7 months ago by EverydayGetaway.
Mar 12, 2017 23:07 |  #68

aladyforty wrote in post #18299428 (external link)
Yes probably true the X100 for me is a bit love hate, I want to take it on an overseas trip this year as my main camera but I cant get past the images I think I may miss from my 5DIII :lol: just wish I could afford a fuji with perhaps one variable length lens to take as a second camera and I think Id leave full frame at home

I understand, I had the same exact experience when I had my X-E1. I loved that camera, but I couldn't let go of my 6D. It wasn't until after I went with Sony instead (thinking I needed FF) that I realized the newer Fuji bodies solved all of the issues I had with my X-E1 ;)

It's prime time to buy a used X-T1's, X-T10's and X-E2's with all the newest versions recently hitting the shelves... I would recommend giving any 3 of those a serious consideration.


Fuji X-Pro2 // Fuji X-T1 // Fuji X-100T // XF 18mm f2 // Rokinon 12mm f2 // XF 35mm f1.4 // Rokinon 21mm f1.4 // XF 18-55mm f/2.8-4 // XF 55-200mm f3.5-4.8 // Rokinon 85mm f1.4 // Zhonghi Lensturbo ii // Various adapted MF lenses
flickr (external link) // Instagram (external link)

LOG IN TO REPLY
sponsored links
(this ad will go away when you log in as registered member)

9,635 views & 24 likes for this thread
Whats the downsides to crop sensor vs full frame?
FORUMS General Gear Talk Changing Camera Brands


Not a member yet? Click here to register to the forums.
Registered members get all the features: search, following threads, own gear list and ratings, likes, more forums, private messaging, thread follow, notifications, own gallery, settings, view hosted photos, own reviews and more...


AAA

Send feedback to staff    •   Jump to forum...    •   Rules    •   Index    •   New posts    •   RTAT    •   'Best of'    •   Gallery    •   Gear    •   Reviews    •   Polls

COOKIES DISCLAIMER: This website uses cookies to improve your user experience. By using this site, you agree to our use of cookies. Privacy policy and cookie usage info.

POWERED BY AMASS 1.4version 1.4
made in Finland
by Pekka Saarinen
for photography-on-the.net
Spent 0.00116 for 6 database queries.
PAGE COMPLETED IN 0.05s
Latest registered member is photucha
880 guests, 453 members online
Simultaneous users record so far is 6106, that happened on Jun 09, 2016