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Canon EOS 6D, reviewed by fotografnuntabrasov

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fotografnuntabrasov
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Apr 15, 2016 04:13 |  #1

Best low light/price camera. I love this pice of heaven! The only issue with this is the foccusing system. You can relly only on the central focus point!


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CanonCameraFan
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Apr 15, 2016 20:51 |  #2

Really? The other focus points are unreliable? Or is the center point just so much better than the others?

While realizing it is not marketed as an EOS 1, I am skeptical of any modern camera receiving much criticism of basic functions. Having been introduced to AF in the film era, I am amazed at the results I've gotten with my previous 40D's and now my 7D's in what is often a very dark stage environment. It is certainly a feature I've come to rely on out of necessity.

Have you had unusual difficulty when not using the center point? The 6D would be my first choice in a move to FF, especially for its low EV metering and hopefully AF capability. Your feedback is appreciated.


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May 05, 2016 04:07 as a reply to CanonCameraFan's post |  #3

All the other focus points are unreliable to focus. I am using the central focus point to focus, lock the focus and then recompose. It works on f/2.8 but on my Canon 35 f1.4 lens this doesent work...


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May 05, 2016 06:09 |  #4

The central point is a cross, the other not. But no af problem even with the peripheral points with my lens.


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May 05, 2016 15:20 |  #5

Mines fine with the other AF points as well... Not much of a review.


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May 07, 2016 02:08 |  #6

don1163 wrote in post #17996995 (external link)
Mines fine with the other AF points as well...

No problem here either. All my lenses work fine with all points in one shot and servo. MFA'd my fast primes. Zooms were good out of the box.

My only complaint about the 6D AF system is the point distribution across the frame. The D610's not much better in that regard. 39 points crammed into roughly the same amount of space as the 6D's 11. It's a compromise. Great sensors with decent though not spectacular AF systems. For their intended audience I think both bodies are reasonably equipped.

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Scoobert
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May 08, 2016 21:10 |  #7

CanonCameraFan wrote in post #17973288 (external link)
Really? The other focus points are unreliable? Or is the center point just so much better than the others?

While realizing it is not marketed as an EOS 1, I am skeptical of any modern camera receiving much criticism of basic functions. Having been introduced to AF in the film era, I am amazed at the results I've gotten with my previous 40D's and now my 7D's in what is often a very dark stage environment. It is certainly a feature I've come to rely on out of necessity.

Have you had unusual difficulty when not using the center point? The 6D would be my first choice in a move to FF, especially for its low EV metering and hopefully AF capability. Your feedback is appreciated.

I would really rent one before buying it. I spent a week with one while my 70D was at canon for repair. What I found was the center was freaking awesome, any other point was challenging at best to use for anything not in great light and sitting still. One of the rescues I was taking pictures for had a two day open house. Getting one of the side focus points to get and keep a tracking lock on a donkey just walking by ended up with a very low focus hit rate. This was late afternoon/early evening where even my 70D would have had no problem get a lock. However switching to the center point was greeted with an instant and accurate lock.
If you can get away with just using the center point (at any time no matter the light) and being really selective about when you can use the outer points it would be a fantastic camera. I wanted to love that camera because of its price I thought sure it would be my first full frame. In the end I was really glad I rented it. After a week with I found there is no way I would have been happy with that focus system coming from a 70D and being used to using the outer points at almost any time.

But man that center point, its great.




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Foggytop
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Jun 28, 2016 07:13 |  #8

Anyone else have further experience with the focusing of the 6D? So many online reviews claim it can focus down to -3EV, but none seem to mention the above issue re: center point only. Looking at this as a backup for my 5DIII and as my second shooters camera, but if the focus is worse than the 7D i just got rid of...


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Jun 28, 2016 11:05 |  #9

Foggytop wrote in post #18052157 (external link)
Anyone else have further experience with the focusing of the 6D? So many online reviews claim it can focus down to -3EV, but none seem to mention the above issue re: center point only. Looking at this as a backup for my 5DIII and as my second shooters camera, but if the focus is worse than the 7D i just got rid of...

I have had my 6D for a couple of years, and I can't understand the negative responses to the AF system. I have read negative comments from people who have never owned one, but saw a review on some internet blog, so it must be true. For others, the only camera that is worth owning is the 5DIII, again "knowledge" spewed by people who have never owned either camera. I don't shoot sports, so the 6D focusing system is just fine. The outer focusing points do just fine in just about every situation I have encountered. Why would I spend an extra $1000+ for focus points I will never use. That $1000 I saved by buying the 6D was happily spent on additional glass that is very happy sitting a 6D. The outer focus points work well, and I am very happy with my 6D.




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Jun 29, 2016 01:28 as a reply to eddieb1's post |  #10

I do shoot sports, and when I got my 6D I decided to shoot an event just to see whether it could handle the AF requirement or not. I tested the camera during a practice and then an actual game the next day (I shoot roller derby, which is pretty demanding on focus and tracking).

The result with center point was fully as good as with my 5D mk iii. I only use center point about 90% of the time on my other bodies anyway, so it was a fair comparison. I wouldn't hesitate to pick up the 6D for any event based on my experience. On the occasions where I use peripheral points, I'm not looking for world class performance anyway. More likely I'm trying to avoid focus-recompose hassles.

The only reason I use the 5D mk iii regularly is that it has a more durable shutter, CF card and the occasionally useful small zone AF. Sometimes it's worth its price. :-)


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Jun 29, 2016 05:19 as a reply to GregDunn's post |  #11

Still debating between the 6D and a 7DII (yeah I know, two completely different beasts), but good to know the focus on the 6D is up to par. I do a lot of canine sports, the center focus is not as useful as I often need to choose the lower or upper point from center, but for larger dogs the center would work. I'm guessing roller derby has less than optimal indoor lighting? What ISO / shutter speed combos do you use?


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sleepingsheep
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Dec 12, 2016 12:39 |  #12

Debating 6d or Mirrorless: Sony a7r series.

price is killing me, however, on the Sony.




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jhanson25
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Dec 17, 2016 09:07 |  #13

I loved my 6D!!




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blulight
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Mar 15, 2017 07:35 as a reply to aezoss's post |  #14

what would you recommend then, for a "next best choice"?




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Mar 15, 2017 08:29 as a reply to blulight's post |  #15

There is no 'next best choice'.

The 6D is a great piece for anything you choose to do with it. If you're a capable photographer and you know your equipment the 6D will be an outstanding performer for you.


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