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Seems like a Godox Fuji trigger will be out soon

 
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Mar 17, 2017 12:39 |  #16

Two Hot Shoes wrote in post #18299944 (external link)
There are reports of Cactus V6ii working the AD600 in HSS but native support would be welcomed. Profoto and Elinchrom have also said they will start supporting sometime this year.

The only comment I saw related to the AD600 on the Cactus site was that it might work if its t.1 was longer than 1/100 second.
For the AD600 to have any chance of working there would have to be a way to place it in HSS mode and then fire it via the sync port. Theoretically that might work. Practically speaking I doubt it.

The AD360, on the other hand, since it has a Canon (or Nikon) hot foot with all the TTL control pads, might be useable with a Cactus 6II transceiver set to Canon or Nikon speedlite profile.

What would be interesting, would be to try placing an XT1c onto a Cactus V6II transceiver to see if it would fire multiple Godox X system lights.


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Mar 17, 2017 16:48 |  #17

Piet Van den Eynde on V6-ii and AD600 amongst others: https://fujilove.com/r​eview-cactus-v6-mark-ii/ (external link)


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Mar 17, 2017 18:40 |  #18

Two Hot Shoes wrote in post #18303643 (external link)
Piet Van den Eynde on V6-ii and AD600 amongst others: https://fujilove.com/r​eview-cactus-v6-mark-ii/ (external link)

And as expected the fine print says:

For this technology to work, the flash duration needs to be as long (slow) as possible. That’s why it will only work at full power.

and

Power Sync is also the option to choose when you want to work with studio flashes beyond the sync speed.

Power Sync is also the way to go if you want to use studio flashes. This shot was taken with the 600 Ws Godox AD600B, attached to a Cactus V6 Mark II receiver and triggered by a Cactus V6 Mark II transmitter on my Fujifilm camera. For the moment, when working with studio flashes, the trick is to set the receiver V6 in the Nikon flash profile.


I shoot my XPLOR600 in a bag with an extension head. Godox didn't design it well to have an external trigger when inside the bag. Also power sync is bound to give a gradient. Not that big of a deal as one can easily fix that in post using LR gradient tool. I will wait for Fuji compatible trigger for much cleaner implementation.


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Mar 17, 2017 19:06 as a reply to bobbyz's post |  #19

I'm waiting for a Fuji trigger also, nearly bought a pair of Cactus triggers last week but I don't need HSS really & happy with how well the cameras focus with a 6 stop ND on for now. I did read a report from on guy on Fujilove's Facebook page saying he has it working well, not that I can find that post now.


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Mar 17, 2017 21:44 |  #20

I will try my 3 stop ND filter next time. It will get me from 1/200 to 1/1600, that should be good based on my last shoot.


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Mar 18, 2017 08:41 |  #21

Two Hot Shoes wrote in post #18303643 (external link)
Piet Van den Eynde on V6-ii and AD600 amongst others: https://fujilove.com/r​eview-cactus-v6-mark-ii/ (external link)

As noted, the only way to use a non-speedlite with the Cactus is "power sync" which is their name for what PW called "Hyper Sync". The problem with Godox lights in this situation is that they are IGBT power controlled which means they have a tail only when fired at full power.


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Mar 23, 2017 16:05 |  #22

My GFX 50S finally arrived.
I updated the firmware in a Canon and Nikon XT-1 and selected the single pin Fn option.
Both fire the lights up to 125 x sync. In fact they will fire the lights beyond that but the curtain shadow get in the way.

At first I thought there was a problem with the Canon XT-1. Turns out that the way the hot shoe is designed on the 50S permits the trigger to be placed on the camera with the center pin a bit too far forward. Placing it on and then pulling it back just a smig works.

Now I can use the same lights A7RII and 50S. Then, when Godox delivers the XT1f I'll have all the features.


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Mar 23, 2017 18:36 as a reply to dmward's post |  #23

Sweet, look forward to seeing some shots. Enjoy.


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Mar 23, 2017 21:17 |  #24

Lucky Dave.:)


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Mar 23, 2017 21:44 |  #25

Two Hot Shoes wrote in post #18309050 (external link)
Sweet, look forward to seeing some shots. Enjoy.

Have a shoot scheduled for Sunday. That's one reason I wanted to confirm that they XT-1 could work with the GFX50s.
I plan to shot with both the A7RII and the 50s.


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Mar 24, 2017 07:19 as a reply to dmward's post |  #26

What lenses did you manage to get, the zoom is proving hard to locate right now.


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Mar 24, 2017 10:11 |  #27

This from Cactus today:
Fujifilm TTL and HSS
With the introduction of Fujifilm new flash system launched on the EF-X500, High- speed Sync (HSS/FP) is finally available. Besides adopting the new HSS platform, the upcoming Fujifilm X-TTL firmware also extends support for wireless TTL to Fujifilm flashes as well as Canon, Nikon, Olympus, and Panasonic flashes. Fujifilm X-TTL Firmware release date will be announced on our website.

Still don't know if it will work on the AD600 though.


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Mar 24, 2017 11:04 |  #28

Two Hot Shoes wrote in post #18309575 (external link)
This from Cactus today:
Fujifilm TTL and HSS
With the introduction of Fujifilm new flash system launched on the EF-X500, High- speed Sync (HSS/FP) is finally available. Besides adopting the new HSS platform, the upcoming Fujifilm X-TTL firmware also extends support for wireless TTL to Fujifilm flashes as well as Canon, Nikon, Olympus, and Panasonic flashes. Fujifilm X-TTL Firmware release date will be announced on our website.

Still don't know if it will work on the AD600 though.

As you long as Godox can decode the TTL thing on Fuji side, the other side should work. That is how they able to handle same AD600 with Canon, Nikon or Sony. Everything is done on the Tx side between the Tx and camera.


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Mar 24, 2017 12:05 as a reply to bobbyz's post |  #29

They say they can work TTL on Fuji so I guess that is a yes.


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Mar 24, 2017 17:52 |  #30

Two Hot Shoes wrote in post #18309450 (external link)
What lenses did you manage to get, the zoom is proving hard to locate right now.

Zoom and 120mm Macro.
Those may be the only lenses I get.
With my Hassy, back in the film days, I loved the 150 for portraits.
That's what I'm hoping the 120 will satisfy.

Also, I'm going to see how my TSE lenses work via the cheap Fotodiox adapter. If they work as hoped, then I'll see if the Cambo adapter with aperture control will be worth the money.

Nissin Fuji Air Commander arrived today.
They claim it will control the Sony A700i units I have.
Will let everyone know.


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