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5D Mark IV or 80D?

 
dredwings3119
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Mar 23, 2017 12:37 |  #1

Hello All,

I'm looking to get a new camera body. I am interested in the Canon 5D Mark IV for it's low light shooting capabilities. I will mostly be doing indoor/outdoor engagement shoots and portraits. The problem is, this will really max out my budget and leave me with nothing left over for almost anything maybe a memory card or two.

OR

I can get the canon 80D and an 85mm 1.2 L for the price of the 5D Mark IV. I am tending to lean towards this. However, I really want to make the jump to full frame as I currently have a 40D. Currently I have a Tokina 11-16mm F2.8, Canon 24-70 IS F4, Canon 70-200mm F4, Canon 50mm F1.8.

I really would like for this camera to last me as long as possible ie. 6-10 years.

What would you all suggest I do in this case?


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Mar 23, 2017 12:45 |  #2

Save some more money, have patience and look for a good used 5D4.


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Mar 23, 2017 20:01 |  #3

Scrumhalf wrote in post #18308754 (external link)
Save some more money, have patience and look for a good used 5D4.

I could but I really need a new camera body within the next month or so.


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Mar 23, 2017 20:12 as a reply to dredwings3119's post |  #4

Then I would go with your inclination on the 80D


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Mar 23, 2017 20:39 |  #5

5D mark IV!


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Mar 23, 2017 20:52 |  #6

dredwings3119 wrote in post #18309102 (external link)
I could but I really need a new camera body within the next month or so.

It wasn't on your list, but the 6D is an excellent low light camera. For engagement shoots and portraits, it will suit you perfectly.


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Mar 24, 2017 23:47 |  #7

Naturalist wrote in post #18309112 (external link)
Then I would go with your inclination on the 80D

Im leaning towards this. However, how is the ISO performance can you actually get usable images at 1600-3200?


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Mar 24, 2017 23:48 |  #8

Scrumhalf wrote in post #18309137 (external link)
It wasn't on your list, but the 6D is an excellent low light camera. For engagement shoots and portraits, it will suit you perfectly.


I looked at this option as well. While I do think you're right it would serve me well for maybe a year or two, Im looking for something more "futureproof" if that's even possible.


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Mar 25, 2017 00:48 |  #9

For your use case, I think a 6D will work admirably. Yes, a 5D4 is even better, but it's three times the cost. You can get a used 6D for under $1000. Go and look on the 6D images thread. You'll find that it's eminently suited for the purpose you have listed.


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Mar 25, 2017 00:50 |  #10

If you're doing indoor/outdoor engagement shoots and portraits, will you be paid?

If so, and you want to be "future proof" then I'd go with the 5D4.
I'm not an advocate of racking up a credit card bill, but if you plan on making money
with the camera, then buying it on credit might make sense.


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Mar 25, 2017 00:56 |  #11

Scrumhalf wrote in post #18310276 (external link)
For your use case, I think a 6D will work admirably. Yes, a 5D4 is even better, but it's three times the cost. You can get a used 6D for under $1000. Go and look on the 6D images thread. You'll find that it's eminently suited for the purpose you have listed.

Actually, I think Scrumhalf has the right idea. Especially it you're just starting out in indoor/outdoor engagement shoots and portraits.
I have the 6D and its IQ is stellar.

If your doing paid gigs then the 5D4 would be worth ponying up for.


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Mar 25, 2017 00:57 |  #12

then even a 6d2 would be an even better option once released. Upgrade or buy the glass that you need now and rent the camera for your wedding work. You have a lot of options.


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Mar 25, 2017 01:11 |  #13

6D or 1Dsiii (if you aren't going to shooting in really low light a bunch) and the 85 Lii. Get camera/lens both used for a combined $2200 or $2500 respectively. Shoot for a year, upgrade to 6Dii or 5DIV keep it for five years instead of six.

FF DOF for engagement shoots will be nice combined with the beautiful rendering of the 85Lii.


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Mar 25, 2017 02:57 |  #14

85L on a crop sensor makes zero sense...go for a 6D, or 5DIII if the IV is too much


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Mar 25, 2017 03:21 |  #15

dredwings3119 wrote in post #18310260 (external link)
Im leaning towards this. However, how is the ISO performance can you actually get usable images at 1600-3200?

There isn't a hill of beans difference in the high-ISO abilities of the 80D and the 6D. I can't believe nobody has mentioned buying faster glass. You have a collection of really nice, and fairly slow, f/4 zoom lenses. Even f/1.8-f/2 consumer primes will take your ISO from 3200 (@ f/4) down to 800 (@ f/2). You don't need to spend huge on L primes to get there. Consider 28 1.8, 35 IS, 85 1.8, and if your budget permits, the 135L. Faster glass is another option for lowering ISO.


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