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First couple of kids volleyball tourney - advice, ideas?

 
DrMitch
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Jan 08, 2017 18:33 |  #1

Took some pics at my sons vball tournament.
Using 70-200 2.8 and 7DII - set to servo, and think custom function 3 or 4, and iso at auto (maxed it at 16000).
Gym was relatively dark - shooting around 1000, iso was usually at 16000. I only played with a couple of images in photoshop (I will be getting LR shortly).
Do some of you tend to max lower on ISO and correct poor light and noise in post?
I'd really like to see a couple of before / after shots if possible.

Anyway, here's a few. I can get up close to the court - and the gyms are small and can actually be a bit crowded at times.
He's 12, so the caliber is, shall we say devloping and the ball movement can be very erratic!!

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Jan 09, 2017 00:56 |  #2

Maybe shutter speed of 1/640 and lower iso slightly to help with noise?




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Jan 09, 2017 05:27 |  #3

Here's my best advice/suggestions/ide​as.

http://zivnuska.zenfol​io.com ...-to-photograph-volleyball (external link)


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Jan 09, 2017 07:15 |  #4

Thanks Phil - exactly what I was looking for!!

As for shutter speed, I only recently started needing reading glasses, so when I looked at some test shots at 640 on the screen - they looked out OOF. OOPS!!! :)


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Jan 10, 2017 02:14 |  #5

Only see the face in the last shot. I think the 'personality' of sports are conveyed so well in the faces of execution, would be good to see more during actual plays of the faces...


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Apr 10, 2017 20:14 |  #6

Thanks for the feedback. Been reading lots and looking at lots of photos - and after spending the weekend at provincials, man I have a new found respect for photographing this sport. IT IS HARD!! Kudos to all the amazing photographers on this forum. Anyway, here a few shots from the weekend - I found warmups a great time to get more unique shots (like the kids hitting right at me from the other side of the net)...
Still improving and still playing with the camera settings - noise is getting better - the better lighting helped a lot!
Working on the getting the faces in there!!

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Apr 10, 2017 23:22 |  #7

DrMitch wrote in post #18238079 (external link)
Do some of you tend to max lower on ISO and correct poor light and noise in post?
I'd really like to see a couple of before / after shots if possible.

No, that is never a good idea on Canon sensors. You are always going to get better results by shooting at a higher ISO and the applying Noise Reduction in post.

This was shot at ISO 25600 (but on FF) and cropped down to 3500 pixels before being resized for posting.

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and this has Luminance noise reduction set at 38 and Colour NR at 25 in Lightroom.

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Apr 11, 2017 05:12 |  #8

Zivnuska wrote in post #18238479 (external link)
Here's my best advice/suggestions/ide​as.

http://zivnuska.zenfol​io.com ...-to-photograph-volleyball (external link)


Phil

That is a brilliant resource!
Thank you for taking the time to put together such a comprehensive tutorial ... not only on the what but also the how and why.
I really enjoyed reading through it ... :-)


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Apr 11, 2017 06:38 |  #9

Dan Marchant wrote in post #18324784 (external link)
No, that is never a good idea on Canon sensors. You are always going to get better results by shooting at a higher ISO and the applying Noise Reduction in post.

This was shot at ISO 25600 (but on FF) and cropped down to 3500 pixels before being resized for posting.

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and this has Luminance noise reduction set at 38 and Colour NR at 25 in Lightroom.

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You would be better served using the luminance slider but with the spot brush and selectively reducing the background noise... then you can increase this to 75+ and have a better image. Don't touch the in focus proper exposed areas.... get selective with that and only shadow areas and leave the face/hair spots alone.


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