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Apr 01, 2017 12:18 as a reply to post 18316331 |  #8971

Really interested in hearing more about this... sounds like a log profile




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Apr 01, 2017 13:32 |  #8972

Reminds me of my landscape photos when I do brackets and mask in with luminosity selections. Flat and boring with so much tonal range until you add contrast. Am I understanding what you're saying right?


On a side note...I've been toning a lot of my real estate stuff back from 17mm and going into the 20-24mm range. It really makes you think a lot more about the composition of even a real estate space and I find that the look is much better with less distorted figures. Are most of you still just shooting as wide as possible for real estate?


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Apr 01, 2017 13:51 |  #8973

cccc wrote in post #18316672 (external link)
Really interested in hearing more about this... sounds like a log profile

Not knowledgable enough to understand the math.
In Adobe DNG Profile Maker its just a straight line lower left black to upper right white.
The base Adobe profile has a significant curvature with steep ramp in the blacks and shallow ramp to the white clipping point. The intent is good mid-tones and compressed shadows and highlight which is, in my view counter to what I want as a starting point with a raw file.

Here is a Sony file with both profiles applied.

In this particular case, even the linear curve version has blocked black in a corner of the television screen and clipped highlights at in the upper window pane.


Base curve

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Apr 01, 2017 14:15 |  #8974

seaLere wrote in post #18316738 (external link)
Reminds me of my landscape photos when I do brackets and mask in with luminosity selections. Flat and boring with so much tonal range until you add contrast. Am I understanding what you're saying right?


On a side note...I've been toning a lot of my real estate stuff back from 17mm and going into the 20-24mm range. It really makes you think a lot more about the composition of even a real estate space and I find that the look is much better with less distorted figures. Are most of you still just shooting as wide as possible for real estate?

I understand what you're saying about the distortion at 16mm. I try to keep away from the real wide view but the realitors around here all seem to all want the wider view. Only time I've ever had a problem with a realtor was when I used a 24 TSE. They said it was too cramped looking. Go figure.


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Apr 02, 2017 10:44 |  #8975

dmward wrote in post #18316748 (external link)
Not knowledgable enough to understand the math.
In Adobe DNG Profile Maker its just a straight line lower left black to upper right white.
The base Adobe profile has a significant curvature with steep ramp in the blacks and shallow ramp to the white clipping point. The intent is good mid-tones and compressed shadows and highlight which is, in my view counter to what I want as a starting point with a raw file.

Here is a Sony file with both profiles applied.

In this particular case, even the linear curve version has blocked black in a corner of the television screen and clipped highlights at in the upper window pane.

Base curve

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Wow, #1 looks pretty deliverable for an RE client.


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dmward
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Apr 04, 2017 23:05 |  #8976

joooowan wrote in post #18317471 (external link)
Wow, #1 looks pretty deliverable for an RE client.

It is.
The reason for the example of the base and linear tone curve options with camera profiles is to illustrate an easy way, in Lightroom, to get control of an image when there is a bit more dynamic range required to keep an image within the bounds of Lightroom processing parameters.


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Apr 12, 2017 01:49 |  #8977

The Living area is 1 frame with highlights toned down, the dining room is 3 frames

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Apr 12, 2017 05:42 as a reply to joooowan's post |  #8978

Looks like your flash was almost pointed straight into the rooms...or on its highest settings. it looks "flashy"...overly bright nearest the camera, and you can see the flash in the upper left corner of the window in the second image.


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Apr 12, 2017 10:57 |  #8979

digirebelva wrote in post #18325807 (external link)
Looks like your flash was almost pointed straight into the rooms...or on its highest settings. it looks "flashy"...overly bright nearest the camera, and you can see the flash in the upper left corner of the window in the second image.

Thanks, probably tone it down a little before I deliver it in a today.


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Apr 14, 2017 18:25 |  #8980

Blending Ambients

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Apr 14, 2017 20:49 |  #8981

ambient only in the bathroom, my life probably would've been a lot easier if I used the strobe though. I thought an all white interior would be a piece of cake, not quite the case...

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Apr 16, 2017 19:57 |  #8982

I'm currently photographing some retail developments. Some from today

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Apr 16, 2017 20:21 |  #8983

joooowan wrote in post #18329770 (external link)
I'm currently photographing some retail developments. Some from today


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My opinion - for what it's worth - is that they are too light. My first impression was too light. In LR I would pull the exposure down and then either raise the shadows and/or blacks slider or paint some exposure into the shadows with the adjustment brush. Another approach that might work well is to use the radial filter to maintain the shadows (even lighten them in the second) while pulling the sunlit portions down.

Two more quibbles - one major and one minor. The big one first. The guy on the motorcycle in the second shot is a big distraction and the pickup is also a distraction. Wait for the traffic to clear before making the shot. I also think it could be framed better. I presume the restaurant is the subject but better framing would clear that up.

Second one. Not so big but the guy at the ATM in the first shot is a distraction. Wait for him to leave.


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Apr 16, 2017 20:39 |  #8984

Looking at the second one a bit more, move angle the camera a bit to the left to take in more of the restaurant and place the "Sizzler" sign near the right edge. This will eliminate much of the clutter on the corner as well as the Carl's Jr. sign. You will probably want to go to PS to remove the speed limit sign and, maybe, the stoplight pole as well. As I said before, wait for the traffic to clear and crop much of the street. This should bring the viewer's attention squarely to the restaurant.


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Apr 18, 2017 00:26 |  #8985

yes on the exposure, I might go back again and re-do a few shot.

Also.. Pretty impressed by the dynamic range on a Phantom 4 Pro..

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