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Input please. Nik noise reduction software

 
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Apr 20, 2017 16:10 |  #1

Nik is some great software. Well it was great 4 years ago but there is no longer any updates, so it may be a little out dated.
The good thing is since google bought it, it is now free. The bad thing is they've given up on it so no more updates.

Anyway, I usually only use the B&W conversion and the sharpening programs, I recently tried out the noise reduction program. It does OK but you give up some sharpness. I need some different eyes on it to help me decide if the give and take is worth it.

The fist shot is without the noise reduction and the second is with. Any input is appreciated.


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Apr 20, 2017 17:05 |  #2

Try looking at the free version of Noiseware, I believe they still offer a community version. When you buy it, it will give you plugins to work with your favorite photo processing package.

The noise is so easy to remove and leave the detail, with just rudimentary slider values. Then for good measure run a very light Unsharp Mask on the result to crisp it up a bit more.

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Apr 21, 2017 03:55 |  #3

I use CS5 to edit all of my images and for noise reduction I use a light surface blur on the background only by using the quick selection tool and select the subject (or whatever I don't want the surface blur applied to) then select inverse and apply the surface blur. I then select inverse again and apply sharpening to the subject only. No detail is lost in my images doing it this way.

I took the liberty of doing this on your first image you posted and I didn't sharpen the Osprey.

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Apr 21, 2017 05:45 |  #4

The nice thing is that noiseware already has sliders to preserve the details and contrast ares, so no masking is needed. I never do masking before noise reduction these days, just a single multiple filter action that takes care of images in bulk. Masking and surface blurring is a bona-fide method, but tools are so improved, they are now time-savers.


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Apr 21, 2017 06:31 |  #5

I'd suggest Noiseware as well. I don't know about a free version but its not very expensive to buy.

I'm surprised you are getting this much grain at ISO 160.


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Apr 21, 2017 09:31 |  #6

+1 on the Noiseware software...




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Apr 21, 2017 14:12 |  #7

TeamSpeed wrote in post #18333713 (external link)
The nice thing is that noiseware already has sliders to preserve the details and contrast ares, so no masking is needed. I never do masking before noise reduction these days, just a single multiple filter action that takes care of images in bulk. Masking and surface blurring is a bona-fide method, but tools are so improved, they are now time-savers.

I have simplified my processing steps to the point I can edit a RAW file to something printable in 6-8 minutes. On a good day I may take 300 images and edit maybe 2-3 but I know photographers who will take 2,000+ images and edit/post 60-80 images so I can see where saving time when you're processing that many images at once is valuable so I will pass on this noiseware filter information to them.


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Apr 21, 2017 14:14 |  #8

saea501 wrote in post #18333733 (external link)
I'm surprised you are getting this much grain at ISO 160.

I wondered the same thing...thinking it was either sharpened ahead of time or a heavy crop of the original.


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Apr 21, 2017 16:30 |  #9

Duane N wrote in post #18334084 (external link)
I wondered the same thing...thinking it was either sharpened ahead of time or a heavy crop of the original.

Thanks for the info. Yes very heavy crop! Also I should of had the shutter speed higher, I was hand holding and should have checked my settings better. Any coupon codes out there for Noiseware? Has anyone tried Noise Ninja?




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Apr 21, 2017 16:32 |  #10

TeamSpeed wrote in post #18333713 (external link)
The nice thing is that noiseware already has sliders to preserve the details and contrast ares, so no masking is needed. I never do masking before noise reduction these days, just a single multiple filter action that takes care of images in bulk. Masking and surface blurring is a bona-fide method, but tools are so improved, they are now time-savers.


Thank you, I will look into Noiseware. I already own the Nik tools so I thought I'd try it out.




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May 15, 2017 13:57 |  #11

I've used Neat Image noise reduction for a few years now and I find it very good as well. I think they sell 2 versions , one for 8Bit and the Pro version for 16 bit images.


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May 15, 2017 14:06 |  #12

To those who have used both, is Noiseware better than the built in NR in Lightroom?


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May 15, 2017 14:09 |  #13

Scrumhalf wrote in post #18355374 (external link)
To those who have used both, is Noiseware better than the built in NR in Lightroom?

Does LR allow noise reduction refinement by tonal, color, frequency, contrast levels, luminescent and chroma levels? There are numerous configurations and sliders to tweak to remove noise without masking.

https://photography.tu​tsplus.com ...tion-on-photos--cms-24041 (external link)

There is a learning curve to Noiseware however.

Somebody did a comparison of many different packages, I haven't read through this all yet though. It looks like they missed Imagenomic though.

https://fstoppers.com ...-night-photography-122259 (external link)

If you want the best of both worlds, you can use Noiseware as a LR plugin. :)

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