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3rd Party batteries and 5D4

 
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May 17, 2017 23:21 |  #1

I used to use 3rd party batteries until I had my Nikon D750s freeze up at a wedding when I put some known 3rd party batteries in them. I've moved back to Canon and need to pick up a couple extras for my 5D4. Anyone use 3rd party in this camera and care to recommend a brand?


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May 17, 2017 23:28 |  #2

Used Wasabi in mine with no issues. Talley has some good info on them in one of the threads around here.




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May 18, 2017 05:03 |  #3

Wasabi or sterlingtek...


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May 18, 2017 05:14 |  #4

Been using Wasabi LP-E6 replacements for years. No issues.


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May 18, 2017 17:52 |  #5

I have been using Watson and Canon batteries interchangeably very day in the 5D4 over the last month, and so far no issue.


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May 18, 2017 23:09 |  #6

What about recharge time on 3rd party batts? Someone recently said their Wasabi batts work in the camera but take far far longer to recharge.

Thoughts?




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May 19, 2017 05:59 as a reply to chuckmiller's post |  #7

I've been using Wasabi LP-E6 replacements for years. No way I'd ever notice a difference in recharge times. I've got better stuff to do that watch batteries recharge. Of course, I don't wait until the last minute to recharge, either. I thought the point of spare batteries was to always have power on hand.


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May 19, 2017 07:02 |  #8

I use the 3rd party chargers with the 3rd party batteries. I have seen some strange behavior with the 3rd party batteries in the Canon charger. I think the chip in the 3rd party doesn't quite work the same with the charger as the Canon charger, so the batteries will appear to be charged fully, but aren't, etc.

I think the chip has just enough info on it to get it past the Canon cameras, but not enough to be fully accurate on the #bars refresh and also reporting to the charger.


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May 19, 2017 07:25 |  #9

TeamSpeed wrote in post #18358279 (external link)
I use the 3rd party chargers with the 3rd party batteries. I have seen some strange behavior with the 3rd party batteries in the Canon charger. I think the chip in the 3rd party doesn't quite work the same with the charger as the Canon charger, so the batteries will appear to be charged fully, but aren't, etc.

I think the chip has just enough info on it to get it past the Canon cameras, but not enough to be fully accurate on the #bars refresh and also reporting to the charger.

I agree with TeamSpeed. Using the proper charger seems to matter. I never paid attention to that before. Twice my Canon-charged Wasabi battery has acted strange. Now I am using the Wasabi charger for Wasabi batteries. No hint of strangeness.


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May 19, 2017 09:27 |  #10

huntersdad wrote in post #18357340 (external link)
I used to use 3rd party batteries until I had my Nikon D750s freeze up at a wedding when I put some known 3rd party batteries in them.

After that experience you want to try 3rd party batteries again?

You're a professional photographer with a $3500 5D4 and you want to go cheap on the batteries.
Dude, WTF?


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May 19, 2017 09:45 |  #11

Perfectly Frank wrote in post #18358364 (external link)
After that experience you want to try 3rd party batteries again?

You're a professional photographer with a $3500 5D4 and you want to go cheap on the batteries.
Dude, WTF?

We haven't heard that before have we? :)

Let's recap what is said in EVERY SINGLE other thread that talks about aftermarket batteries, when this comment comes up:

- Batteries are independent of the price you pay for a camera. (for example a 7D uses the same battery as a 5D4, but they are wildly in different price points)

- Manufacturer-branded batteries ALWAYS have a 2 to 3x markup.

- There are only a few battery manufacturers out there for camera batteries, so just because Canon is on the plastic case, Canon doesn't make them.

- There are tried and true aftermarket batteries that work very well, across years of experiences and thousands of shooters.

- Out of 10+ years of DSLRs, the number of stories where a camera was adversely harmed by an aftermarket battery would be .00001% of the total sales of cameras in that period. In fact, find just 3 posts here on POTN in the past years where somebody shows that their camera was broken by a defective battery? It will probably be hard to find even 1.

- In all of the years of using aftermarket batteries, the single largest complaint you will see is that they don't seem to last as long as the factory equivalent. However factory equivalents don't last 3x the time as these aftermarkets, so you are still ahead buying aftermarkets. In other cases, though, you will see that Canon batteries fail too, and sometimes last much less than aftermarket, so there are the stories to counter with.

- The second most prevalent complaint will be that the batteries get stuck, but those don't come up very often, and usually with knockoffs or non-name 3rd party versions.


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May 19, 2017 09:52 |  #12

Perfectly Frank wrote in post #18358364 (external link)
After that experience you want to try 3rd party batteries again?

You're a professional photographer with a $3500 5D4 and you want to go cheap on the batteries.
Dude, WTF?

A camera having an issue when 3rd party battery is in use is a very, very loose correlation. Nothing about cause and effect is established.

I wrecked my motorcycle again yesterday. This time the bike got hurt, and I didn't! (I could afford a 5D4 if I just sold the damn thing!) There was SpeedWay gas in the tank. I'm pretty comfortable with the fact that Speedway Premium did not cause the accident.


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May 19, 2017 09:54 |  #13

I have had a camera lock up on me too, and it turned out to be a TC, and not the battery. Popping the battery and reseating/resetting it made it appear it was the battery, but then it would lock up again "randomly" later.


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May 19, 2017 10:16 |  #14

I understand all points of view. But the OP is a pro and - most likely - has some pretty expensive gear besides his $3500 5D4.
Why buy 3rd party batteries just to save a fist full of dollars? Then you don't have to be concerned with what type of charger to
use, or other issues.

But...to each his own.


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May 19, 2017 10:19 |  #15

The savings of 4 LP-E6 Sterlingteks over the Canon equivalent buys you a factory grip, just to give an example. For a pro, a grip might be very useful, and having 4 batteries as backs just as much.


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