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Can you help me choose a suitable lens for wildlife and airshows please?

 
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Jul 30, 2017 17:59 |  #1

Hello, I'm new here,
I am very much a beginner, so I much appreciate and am grateful for any help you may be able to provide :)
I have a Canon 1300D (I know, the noobiest camera) along with the Canon EF 75-300mm f/4-5.6 III:
https://www.canon.co.u​k ...iii-lens/?WT.ac=PA_lenses (external link)
It has served me well for the few months I have had my camera, but I'd like to replace it with something that can auto-focus faster and quieter than it, with a similar focal length and range.
From what I know, it has a DC motor which is slow and loud, and I'd like to get a lens that has ring-USM or similar, as I believe that is both faster and quieter.
I am looking for a cheap lens, preferably less than £300 but I'm more than happy to get one second hand.
The questions I'm asking are these:
- Will my 1300D camera body limit the AF too much, so a faster auto-focusing lens would not make a difference?
If this is the case then never-mind the rest :(
- Is ring-USM much faster than micro-USM and will it suit my needs better?
- If I buy a Sigma lens, what is the equivalent name? I've heard it's called HSM but I don't know whether that is closer to ring-USM or micro-USM.
I have been looking at a few lenses, and the best one I've found is the EF 70-300mm f/4-5.6 IS USM:
https://www.canon.co.u​k ...usm-lens/?WT.ac=PA_lenses (external link)
However, from what I can see, it uses micro-USM rather than ring-USM so I'm not sure if it would be all that better than my current lens.
I should also mention I'd like image stabilisation as well, although the improved AF takes priority.
Overall, is the EF 70-300mm f/4-5.6 IS USM a suitable upgrade, might the EF-S 55-250mm f/4-5.6 IS STM lens be better for me, or can you recommend me anything better or help me in any other way from the information I have given?

Thank you very much for your time
-Thomas :)




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Jul 30, 2017 18:05 |  #2

Just about any lens you get will beat the 75-300.

The cheapest, while still having great IQ, is the 55-250 STM IS.

Sigma HSM is close to ring USM, which is what you want. Lenses like the 50 1.4 using micro USM motors and they are okay, but still slow and a bit noisy. STM is very respectable as well, and in some cases, I would it up against ring USM.

For Sigma, the only real option these days would be the 150-600 HSM OS, IMO. The only other one I would suggest (having used a number of their longer zoom lenses) is the 50-500 OS, another good lens.

I also would stay away from the old 70-300, not only was the AF a bit slow and noisy, the front element rotates as well, making it difficult to use polarizer filters, etc. It was okay when it was introduced, it was met with excitement, but since then, there have been better options.

As to other 3rd party lenses, I don't have any other suggestions. As to Canon, perhaps the 100-400L (the older one), sometimes you can get it for the same price range as the Sigma 150-600.


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Jul 30, 2017 18:09 as a reply to TeamSpeed's post |  #3

Thank you!
Will those lenses be faster at auto-focusing even with my 1300D?




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Jul 30, 2017 18:19 |  #4

Tyger1048 wrote in post #18414899 (external link)
Thank you!
Will those lenses be faster at auto-focusing even with my 1300D?

They should be faster focusing than the 75-300, bit a little bit at a minimum, but in the end it is up to the camera to drive the focus, the lens does only what it is told.


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Jul 30, 2017 18:29 as a reply to TeamSpeed's post |  #5

If I was to get the 55-250mm lens, what things would be improved over the 75-300?




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Jul 30, 2017 18:34 |  #6

Tyger1048 wrote in post #18414916 (external link)
If I was to get the 55-250mm lens, what things would be improved over the 75-300?

Focusing would be faster but you give up 50mm (which isn't terribly noticeable), and you get a bit more width at 55 vs 75.

IQ should be better than the 75-300, unless you have a really good copy. The 75-300 had a terrible range of copy variation.

You get Image Stabilization as well.

Overall, this isn't a huge step up, but you have to consider the price. If you want more of all this (more reach, fast AF, better IQ), it will cost about 3x or more than the 55-250.

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Jul 30, 2017 18:37 as a reply to TeamSpeed's post |  #7

Thank you so much, I think I'll get the 55-250mm lens, and upgrade at a later date :D




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Jul 30, 2017 18:42 as a reply to Tyger1048's post |  #8

There have been a few variations of this lens, be sure to get the most recent STM IS version. Don't get the non-STM, not a great lens when compared to the latest version.

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Jul 30, 2017 19:55 |  #9

TeamSpeed makes a good point there. The latest 55-250 (the STM) version is better than the earlier models yet is still very reasonably priced. There are better lenses available but you will spend a lot of money to get a worthwhile improvement over the 55-250 STM!

One thing to remember is that, if you are shooting moving subjects at high shutter speeds, then turn the IS (Image Stabiliser) off. Firstly IS doesn't help at fast shutter speeds and with IS turned off your AF will be a little quicker and track better. Save IS for when you simply can't get the shutter speeds that you need without going to silly high ISO values - that's what it is designed for.


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Jul 30, 2017 23:57 |  #10
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Check also the new Sigma 100-400.


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Jul 31, 2017 14:41 |  #11

I would agree that the Canon 55-250 IS STM lens would be a great upgrade, and can be found used for under $100 US! I found it hard to believe so many people were recommending such a cheap lens, but when I picked mine up (for $79 on ebay) I became a true believer!

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Aug 01, 2017 00:28 |  #12

Are you ok with the lens length, or do you feel like going longer?


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Aug 01, 2017 19:03 |  #13

I have no idea how fast the AF might be on a Rebel series body but I've been shooting the Sigma 150-600 C for 1 1/2 seasons of radio control events along with a bit of full scale & it's excellent, but also heavy. Haven't used my 100-400 (ver 1) from the time I bought the Sigma. Lots of samples from it in my gallery.


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