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TomCruise06
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Aug 01, 2017 13:22 |  #1426

Michael456 wrote in post #18416422 (external link)
Not much of a setup, really. I shoot hand-held, no flash.
As to settings:
For shots like this one I use M-mode with auto-iso (I like to have one setting controlled by the camera so I don't have to change settings every time the light changes slightly).
For damselflies I'm usually at 400mm. When shooting at or near MFD (this one's pretty exactly at MFD) I stop down to f8, because sharpness of the 100-400 II isn't great at MFD wide open (and I get more depth of field that way). For this shot I used f10 because I wanted the whole damsel (head to tail) to be in focus and I couldn't get into a position exactly parallel to the animal (down-sloping riverbank).
1/200 is my go-to shutter speed for tele-macros with the 100-400. I'll use faster shutter speeds from time to time (when the light is good or the subject is moving) but have found out that my keeper rate decreases quite a bit when using slower shutter speeds.

Thank you very much for this info as it helps a lot for amateurs like me.




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Aug 01, 2017 15:51 |  #1427

TomCruise06 wrote in post #18416456 (external link)
Thank you very much for this info as it helps a lot for amateurs like me.

and me :lol:

I'm waiting for more bee shots so I can quiz him on those!


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Aug 02, 2017 06:11 |  #1428

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Aug 02, 2017 15:10 |  #1429

Some welcome colour in our drab UK summer...

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Aug 04, 2017 04:57 |  #1430

A couple from Portmeirion, a unique village in North Wales, UK

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Aug 04, 2017 07:55 |  #1431

lijoec wrote in post #18416566 (external link)
and me :lol:

I'm waiting for more bee shots so I can quiz him on those!

As per request... :-D

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Aug 04, 2017 08:02 |  #1432

OK, so I've taken a couple of photos of my basic macro setup. First, the stuff I use:

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A flexible arm with a mini-ballhead on one end. The arm is mounted to a mini quick-release clamp. I needed an adapter screw to connect the arm to the clamp and added some epoxy, because I would often unscrew the joint when bending the arm.
Plus a flash cable, the end with the hot shoe screwed onto the ballhead.

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A mini softbox to diffuse the flash. Dirt cheap and folds flat, so it fits into almost any bag. And an ordinary flash (speedlite 430 II in my case).



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Michael456
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Aug 04, 2017 08:18 |  #1433

Everything assembled:

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The qick release clamp is clamped to the tripod plate that's always on my camera anyway. That way I can quickly mount and unmount the whole thing without any tools. The flexible arm allows me to position the flash wherever I want it to be. Using the flash cable saves me the hassle of having to use the internal flash as a master (which would eat battery).
There are probably much smarter ways for a macro setup, but this works for me.
This is the setup I use for "normal" macros. With the MP-E 65 lighting the subject gets difficult (at least at higher magnifications) that way, so I use a Yongnuo 24EX twin flash with that.


As to camera settings:
I shot in M-mode, using one-shot AF, single point, moving the AF point around with the d-pad to wherever I want it (to get the composition I want). For shutter speed I use 1/200 or 1/250, I usually set aperture to f11 which is a good compromise between depth of field and diffraction.
I mostly leave ISO aut auto-ISO, which the camera always sets to ISO400 when using flash. ISO 400 is a nice compromise, as image quality is still very good and it still captures some ambient light for the background. Sometimes I use ISO100 or 200, but that often results in a black background (which can look very good but I don't want that for every photo).
I turn flash power down a bit, how much depends on how bright it is when I shoot - usually betwenn -1/3 to -1.

Some general things I try to consider when shooting bugs:
  • I try to avoid sudden movements. When moving carefully, most bugs let me get pretty close.
  • I try to get to eye-level (or below).
  • I focus on the eye and try to either shoot from the side or head-on.



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Aug 04, 2017 09:09 |  #1434

Michael456 wrote in post #18419028 (external link)
Everything assembled:

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The qick release clamp is clamped to the tripod plate that's always on my camera anyway. That way I can quickly mount and unmount the whole thing without any tools. The flexible arm allows me to position the flash wherever I want it to be. Using the flash cable saves me the hassle of having to use the internal flash as a master (which would eat battery).
There are probably much smarter ways for a macro setup, but this works for me.
This is the setup I use for "normal" macros. With the MP-E 65 lighting the subject gets difficult (at least at higher magnifications) that way, so I use a Yongnuo 24EX twin flash with that.


As to camera settings:
I shot in M-mode, using one-shot AF, single point, moving the AF point around with the d-pad to wherever I want it (to get the composition I want). For shutter speed I use 1/200 or 1/250, I usually set aperture to f11 which is a good compromise between depth of field and diffraction.
I mostly leave ISO aut auto-ISO, which the camera always sets to ISO400 when using flash. ISO 400 is a nice compromise, as image quality is still very good and it still captures some ambient light for the background. Sometimes I use ISO100 or 200, but that often results in a black background (which can look very good but I don't want that for every photo).
I turn flash power down a bit, how much depends on how bright it is when I shoot - usually betwenn -1/3 to -1.

Some general things I try to consider when shooting bugs:
  • I try to avoid sudden movements. When moving carefully, most bugs let me get pretty close.
  • I try to get to eye-level (or below).
  • I focus on the eye and try to either shoot from the side or head-on.

Thanks for the explanations. I'd like to venture into some macro in the not too distant future.


Canon EOS 80D | Canon EF-S 18-55mm f/3.5-5.6 IS STM, EF-S 55-250mm f/4-5.6 IS |

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Aug 04, 2017 09:58 |  #1435

Michael456 wrote in post #18419028 (external link)
Everything assembled:

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forum: Canon EOS Digital Cameras

The qick release clamp is clamped to the tripod plate that's always on my camera anyway. That way I can quickly mount and unmount the whole thing without any tools. The flexible arm allows me to position the flash wherever I want it to be. Using the flash cable saves me the hassle of having to use the internal flash as a master (which would eat battery).
There are probably much smarter ways for a macro setup, but this works for me.
This is the setup I use for "normal" macros. With the MP-E 65 lighting the subject gets difficult (at least at higher magnifications) that way, so I use a Yongnuo 24EX twin flash with that.


As to camera settings:
I shot in M-mode, using one-shot AF, single point, moving the AF point around with the d-pad to wherever I want it (to get the composition I want). For shutter speed I use 1/200 or 1/250, I usually set aperture to f11 which is a good compromise between depth of field and diffraction.
I mostly leave ISO aut auto-ISO, which the camera always sets to ISO400 when using flash. ISO 400 is a nice compromise, as image quality is still very good and it still captures some ambient light for the background. Sometimes I use ISO100 or 200, but that often results in a black background (which can look very good but I don't want that for every photo).
I turn flash power down a bit, how much depends on how bright it is when I shoot - usually betwenn -1/3 to -1.

Some general things I try to consider when shooting bugs:
  • I try to avoid sudden movements. When moving carefully, most bugs let me get pretty close.
  • I try to get to eye-level (or below).
  • I focus on the eye and try to either shoot from the side or head-on.

Greatly appreciate the write-up Michael.




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Terrycanon
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Aug 04, 2017 10:08 |  #1436

bones519 wrote in post #18419111 (external link)
Greatly appreciate the write-up Michael.

Me, too! I shall keep an eye on it for future reference.


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lijoec
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Aug 04, 2017 11:19 |  #1437

Thank you, it is greatly appreciated. I need to work on the flash mount then I have to give it a try. No laughing though. :lol:

Michael456 wrote in post #18419001 (external link)
As per request... :-D

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(I hope wasps are OK as well ;-)a)


Cheers,
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Aug 04, 2017 13:00 |  #1438

She looks like an angel, but don't let that fool you....

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Aug 05, 2017 18:06 |  #1439

Deviated from birds, and did some macro today. Used a soft box for lighting.

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Aug 05, 2017 23:45 |  #1440

ugh, not happy with the attempt . but it is my best so far.

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