Approve the Cookies
This website uses cookies to improve your user experience. By using this site, you agree to our use of cookies. Read More.
OK
Index  •   • New posts  •   • RTAT  •   • 'Best of'  •   • Gallery  •   • Gear  •   • Reviews
New posts  •   • RTAT  •   • 'Best of'  •   • Gallery  •   • Gear  •   • Reviews
Register to forums    Log in

 
FORUMS General Gear Talk Changing Camera Brands
Thread started 10 Aug 2017 (Thursday) 09:41
Prev/next
sponsored links
(this ad will go away when you log in as registered member)

Moving to Fuji

 
AlanU
Cream of the Crop
Joined Feb 2008
Vancouver, BC
Aug 11, 2017 03:31 |  #16

scorpio_e wrote in post #18424232 (external link)
Thanks for the input Jake !!!! Greatly appreciated:)

I have the 70 to 200 L V2 so it would be an even trade for 50-140 or close ..

The 70-200 f/2.8L mk2 produces prime lens images with modern micro contrast sharpness found in most of Canon's mk2 new gen lenses or Sigma ART lenses.

If you read honest reviews of the Fuji 50-140 you'll discover many commenting (negative) on the contrast bokeh it provides. Yes indeed the Canon 70-200L IS mk2 is better but i still liked my 70-200 f/2.8IS mk1 for bokeh quality.

The 55-200 bokeh is dreadful IMO. I own it and it's sharp as heck but the bokeh is not very appealing if you start comparing it to many other lenses. Since I shoot fuji I'll eventually buy the 50-140 for versatility and light weight. I guess you must stick with fuji primes to maximize beautiful bokeh.

If you analyze the fuji system they are more recognized by their prime lenses performance and they have good zooms.

fuji zooms will deliver great images but I still think primes will deliver better overall IQ. Different camera brands (Canon/Nikon/Sony) seem to all have insane IQ generators from zooms and primes.


5Dmkiv |5Dmkiii | 80D | 24LmkII | 35mm f/2 IS | 85 mkII L | 100L | EF-S 10-22 | 16-35L mkII | 24-70 f/2.8L mkii| 70-200 f/2.8 ISL mkII| 600EX-RT x2 | 580 EX II x2 | Einstein's
Fuji X-T2 w/battery booster | 16mm f/1.4 | 56 f/1.2 | 10-24 f/4.0 | 55-200 | EF-X500

LOG IN TO REPLY
sponsored links
(this ad will go away when you log in as registered member)
scorpio_e
THREAD ­ STARTER
Cream of the Crop
scorpio_e's Avatar
Joined Aug 2007
Pa
Aug 11, 2017 06:07 |  #17

AlanU wrote in post #18424673 (external link)
Not sure why you dont consider the 5d3 if your still considering Canon mirrored bodies. Or jump into a nikon d750 that isn't in the list of recalls. Is 4k absolutely mandatory??

If your truly going for fuji I'd highly suggest you only consider the new f/2 generation primes for most events shooting due to AF speed. The 16mm and 56mm are acceptable in capturing spontaneous pivotal moments (father wiping tears, mother/father son/daughter etc). the 55-200, 18-55, and other older original generation Fuji lenses are sluggish. I'd rather use a 35mm f/2 over the 35 f/1.4 due to better AF speed in the F/2 version. however it's nice to have f/1.4 when you have the luxury of time.

16-55 and 50-140mm is absolutely imperative to cover your ground. The 10-24mm f/4 is probably too slow for aperture but AF is acceptable.

Godox is the newest offerings for dedicated fuji stuff. Even with my brief research there seems to be a gradual movement for this newer "fuji" designated flash setup.

If your jumping in I'd say it's absolutely necessary to buy a battery booster for an x-t2 for wedding work. If your tiny primary battery dies as you've become overwhelmed your in serious trouble. If I was jumping in Fuji for wedding work I would buy two X-t2 both with battery boosters. I would only use OEM batteries too just for piece of mind. Sounds like Watson is a decent 3rd party battery. I've been using a battery called UPSTART and it seems to be ok and almost similar to OEM fuji batteries. I only buy 3rd party because fuji is my secondary system for pleasure only.

For my fun events work (unpaid) I've used my X-T10 and the AF speed did not keep up with my standards. I missed alot of shots both with my 16mm and 10-24mm lens. The X-t2 was a pleasant improvement in AF but I still feel Fuji must work harder in putting a faster processor in the Camera bodies. I still feel the AF lag for quick paced stuff but for most general use I find the Fuji AF to be adequate.

I just took this photo today. Simple photo to take for any semi modern camera to track. AF-C with an X-t10 IMO would be somewhat painful to obtain this photo.


If I took this photo with an old 6d I might have been able to do it "ok". The new 6dmk2 would have been able to do faster movement shots will very little effort. The 6d2 really has the lack of dual memory slots to kill the deal for me for professional use if i was buying into a system. I can handle the 1/4000 max shutter speed. But the Canon and Nikon world still have all kinds of choices for reliable advanced remote flash systems with HSS/ETTL.

Fuji is without a doubt catching up. I would say majority of fuji wedding photogs do not use much remote flash during events compared to your more common Nikon/Canon wedding shooter. Possibly my observations is probably due to less Fuji wedding photogs vs Nikon/canon and even sony.

There are strong loyal shooters from Canon/Nikon/Sony and fuji. I have a very strong bond with Canon when it comes to remote flash work and events photography. When it comes to Fuji i absolutely love shooting with the system if I had to do posed shots like headshots/posed studio family sessions/product shots etc. For my casual photography and when I have a luxury of time the Fuji really works well.

Only high stress fast paced events photography I do not have confidence in the Fuji at the moment. I'm still doing research on godox flash system but that is only one of the reasons for using Canon over Fuji. I use remote flash for receptions for more dynamic lighting. If your a bounced flash kinda guy the fuji will probably work for you. However I mention this often that the Red focus assist grid from a Canon/Nikon speedlight on the dance floor will assure you virtually perfect autofocus on the reception dance floor. So far my experience with Fuji with speedlight in low light has not been very confident as the mirrorless cannot take advantage of that technology. In fact I have experienced more color shift in warmer white balance using remote flash with Fuji compared to my Canon gear.

I'm genuinely working hard to make push fuji into my primary system. High iso is good but you will have an easier time recovering an 6dmk2 file even with the older sensor tech regarding dynamic range. Low light AF the Canon will land the shots in low light as well as virtually perfectly acquiring AF using red focus assist grid with speedlight during reception work. Zero manual manual focus required in landing a shot as your AF will not fail you in Canon or Nikon during a dark low lit environment. So far with my X-t2 and current lenses I own I still get the indication that I cannot land the focus in low light....arghhhhhhhhh My 5d3 does not really struggle in this regard in AF.

Before you go gang busters in buying gear. I suggest renting or borrowing fuji gear for your next wedding. You'd be lying if you feel you will not wet your pants when you AF fails you in low light even with a fuji dedicated speedlight. It certainly was a rude awakening when I attempted to shoot a casual event with an Xt10 and Xe2 with new firmware. I now know and met a good handful of wedding photogs owning fuji as a secondary and they still cannot use fuji as a primary.

Am I a Fuji Hater??? absolutely not!!!! The Fuji system is incredible in producing amazing files. Tools are tools and I select hardware / gear for specific reasons. A 5dmk4 is heavier but has better AF speed and accuracy, excellent battery life, destroys my xt2 in high iso, amazing dynamic range, excellent native flash speedlights, 4k, more lens selection etc. The 5dmk4 will be easier in post processing to deal with errors you've made in exposure.

I cannot see myself selling off my fuji gear. I've created some incredible images from that camera system. Only when fuji can even become on par with a 5dmk3/5dmk4 in AF, especially in reliable low light AF......I can use Fuj as a primary system. In the meantime I'll be adding more fuji lenses eventually to my gearlist for my pleasure use with complete happiness.

I am sure I will take things slow :) . I can pick up a up a used 5DMKIII or a 6dMKII for the same price as a XT2 with a lens. Now Godox has added a flash compatible with the Fuji system. This also helped y decision.

I like the smaller form factor of the XT2 and the old school dials. I also have connections at Fuji and can get free camera repair :) BIG plus.

When I shoot weddings, I always shoot two cameras so I will shoot with similar focal lengths so I do not have to change pants *LOL*

Thank you for taking time to comment :)


www.steelcityphotograp​hy.com (external link)

LOG IN TO REPLY
FarmerTed1971
fondling the 5D4
FarmerTed1971's Avatar
Joined Sep 2013
Portland, OR
Aug 11, 2017 08:28 as a reply to post 18424673 |  #18

Great post.


Getting better at this - Fuji Xt-2 - 18-55 - 35 f2 WR - 50-140 - 6D - 135L - 70-200 f4L IS - 600EX-RT x2 - ST-E3-RT - flickr (external link) - www.scottaticephoto.co​m (external link)

LOG IN TO REPLY
AlanU
Cream of the Crop
Joined Feb 2008
Vancouver, BC
Aug 11, 2017 10:02 |  #19

scorpio_e wrote in post #18424720 (external link)
I am sure I will take things slow :) . I can pick up a up a used 5DMKIII or a 6dMKII for the same price as a XT2 with a lens. Now Godox has added a flash compatible with the Fuji system. This also helped y decision.

I like the smaller form factor of the XT2 and the old school dials. I also have connections at Fuji and can get free camera repair :) BIG plus.

When I shoot weddings, I always shoot two cameras so I will shoot with similar focal lengths so I do not have to change pants *LOL*

Thank you for taking time to comment :)

If you go onto Fred Miranda's forum you can see many photogs that fully agree on the exact concerns I have. You also have a mix of others that do not feel AF is an issue.

I will say my only slow focusing Canon lens is the 85Lmk2. For the fuji lens selection they are not that slow in focus but older generation fuji lenses can be sluggish especially when low light occurs. IMO current many fuji lenses should be revamped with newer AF motors for quicker response.

Adding a bulky battery booster to the Xt2 defeats the purpose of small form factor. I will be picking one up because a single battery truly feels risky If you chimp your files on a semi regular basis and shooting.

I lugged my fuji xt10 to a childrens easter egg hunt during my first taste of Fuji world. It could not keep up with the kids at all. That was the catalyst in scrutinizing the Fuji AF system. Acquiring AF with an 80d, 7dmk2 or 6d2 will be more responsive without a doubt in my mind. Even with an open mind I can say in good light the Xt2 does a good job in good light but my Canon gear will land spontaneous photos effortlessly in good light.

Please dont take my word for it. Rent Fuji and see if it jives with your style of work. Just remember casual / family photos is substantially less demanding than once in a lifetime events photography.

Test the waters in Fuji Land.


5Dmkiv |5Dmkiii | 80D | 24LmkII | 35mm f/2 IS | 85 mkII L | 100L | EF-S 10-22 | 16-35L mkII | 24-70 f/2.8L mkii| 70-200 f/2.8 ISL mkII| 600EX-RT x2 | 580 EX II x2 | Einstein's
Fuji X-T2 w/battery booster | 16mm f/1.4 | 56 f/1.2 | 10-24 f/4.0 | 55-200 | EF-X500

LOG IN TO REPLY
Osa713
Senior Member
Osa713's Avatar
Joined Jun 2011
Houston, TX
Aug 11, 2017 10:08 |  #20

scorpio_e wrote in post #18424720 (external link)
Thank you for taking time to comment :)

You will learn quickly that he looks forward to post like this ;-)a


Do not reply to spam, report it!

LOG IN TO REPLY
scorpio_e
THREAD ­ STARTER
Cream of the Crop
scorpio_e's Avatar
Joined Aug 2007
Pa
Aug 11, 2017 10:26 |  #21

Osa713 wrote in post #18424839 (external link)
You will learn quickly that he looks forward to post like this ;-)a


*LOL* You made my morning...


www.steelcityphotograp​hy.com (external link)

LOG IN TO REPLY
AlanU
Cream of the Crop
Joined Feb 2008
Vancouver, BC
Aug 11, 2017 11:19 |  #22

Osa713 wrote in post #18424839 (external link)
You will learn quickly that he looks forward to post like this ;-)a


No personal attack/snubs necessary thank you.......remember your not sheltered on "changing camera brands" as this is not a dedicated fuji forum. I'm just mentioning real concerns for a non experience fuji person.

I'm not sure if your workflow is primarily just headshots......I know I can rock the fuji system without a bead of sweat for that type of static subjects.

The post specifically mentioned wedding application and some travels. Doesn't sound like the OP has used Fuji for events.

Osa, I'm not sure if you shoot events as you've posted many photo's that are static/posed. Individuals all have a preference in their tools when it comes to tracking subjects during events. I'm not talking about using zone AF-c and "SPRAY AND PRAY" cars/bicycles but precise split seconds during an event. Split second photos is different from posed shots or zone AF "spray and pray".

Static subjects or slow moving subjects is no challenge to any modern camera. Nikon/Canon still dominates the wedding world for specific reasons. One criteria is high iso low light performance and the other is extremely reliable AF.

OSA, take a gander at fred miranda in the wedding section or Fuji FM forum and do some reading.

Kim is the only fuji user on POTN I think that shoots Fuji for wedding work...unless I've missed others. He sounds like he's a master in manual focus because that is honestly a criteria for shooting fuji when AF fails you in low light. This is a realistic topic if you dont drink Kool aid and admit pros/cons in the system you use. If you shoot easy static / slow moving subjects you can easily switch to Fuji. If you do use Fuji for weddings you need to master the system and understand that AF is a weak point.

I use two systems. High stress events photography the AF never ever fails me in low light with mirrored bodies. Without a doubt i cannot say the same for Fuji. This is a well documented concern with many wedding photogs. Personal preference and tolerance is very individual. This is why I tell people to TEST/RENT fuji gear and do a testrun!!

Just like anything a wedding photographer has many styles. Some use available light, many used bounced flash and some put more effort and used remote flash. Some are amazing and some are not so amazing. Each and every photog will have preference in tools.


5Dmkiv |5Dmkiii | 80D | 24LmkII | 35mm f/2 IS | 85 mkII L | 100L | EF-S 10-22 | 16-35L mkII | 24-70 f/2.8L mkii| 70-200 f/2.8 ISL mkII| 600EX-RT x2 | 580 EX II x2 | Einstein's
Fuji X-T2 w/battery booster | 16mm f/1.4 | 56 f/1.2 | 10-24 f/4.0 | 55-200 | EF-X500

LOG IN TO REPLY
EverydayGetaway
Cream of the Crop
EverydayGetaway's Avatar
9,762 posts
Gallery: 1 photo
Joined Oct 2012
Bowie, MD
Aug 11, 2017 11:24 |  #23

welshwizard1971 wrote in post #18424186 (external link)
I wish I had the guts to jump, but every time I play with one, or a Sony, the EVF feels too weird for me, love the build quality, but, no, just too alien to use. But then I see thew pics on the Fuji threads, or the Sony threads, and......

Try out the X-Pro2, you might really like the hybrid viewfinder, I love mine :)


Fuji X-Pro2 // Fuji X-T1 // Fuji X-100T // XF 18mm f2 // Rokinon 12mm f2 // XF 35mm f1.4 // Rokinon 21mm f1.4 // XF 18-55mm f/2.8-4 // XF 55-200mm f3.5-4.8 // Rokinon 85mm f1.4 // Zhonghi Lensturbo ii // Various adapted MF lenses
flickr (external link) // Instagram (external link)

LOG IN TO REPLY
scorpio_e
THREAD ­ STARTER
Cream of the Crop
scorpio_e's Avatar
Joined Aug 2007
Pa
Aug 11, 2017 11:28 |  #24

AlanU wrote in post #18424884 (external link)
No personal attack/snubs necessary thank you.......remember your not sheltered on "changing camera brands" as this is not a dedicated fuji forum. I'm just mentioning real concerns for a non experience fuji person.

I'm not sure if your workflow is primarily just headshots......I know I can rock the fuji system without a bead of sweat for that type of static subjects.

The post specifically mentioned wedding application and some travels. Doesn't sound like the OP has used Fuji for events.

Osa, I'm not sure if you shoot events as you've posted many photo's that are static/posed. Individuals all have a preference in their tools when it comes to tracking subjects during events. I'm not talking about using zone AF-c and "SPRAY AND PRAY" cars/bicycles but precise split seconds during an event. Split second photos is different from posed shots or zone AF "spray and pray".

Static subjects or slow moving subjects is no challenge to any modern camera. Nikon/Canon still dominates the wedding world for specific reasons. One criteria is high iso low light performance and the other is extremely reliable AF.

OSA, take a gander at fred miranda in the wedding section or Fuji FM forum and do some reading.

Kim is the only fuji user on POTN I think that shoots Fuji for wedding work...unless I've missed others. He sounds like he's a master in manual focus because that is honestly a criteria for shooting fuji when AF fails you in low light. This is a realistic topic if you dont drink Kool aid and admit pros/cons in the system you use. If you shoot easy static / slow moving subjects you can easily switch to Fuji. If you do use Fuji for weddings you need to master the system and understand that AF is a weak point.

I use two systems. High stress events photography the AF never ever fails me in low light with mirrored bodies. Without a doubt i cannot say the same for Fuji. This is a well documented concern with many wedding photogs. Personal preference and tolerance is very individual. This is why I tell people to TEST/RENT fuji gear and do a testrun!!

Just like anything a wedding photographer has many styles. Some use available light, many used bounced flash and some put more effort and used remote flash. Some are amazing and some are not so amazing. Each and every photog will have preference in tools.


I sincerely appreciate your input and concern :)


www.steelcityphotograp​hy.com (external link)

LOG IN TO REPLY
EverydayGetaway
Cream of the Crop
EverydayGetaway's Avatar
9,762 posts
Gallery: 1 photo
Joined Oct 2012
Bowie, MD
Aug 11, 2017 11:36 |  #25

AlanU wrote in post #18424884 (external link)
No personal attack/snubs necessary thank you.......remember your not sheltered on "changing camera brands" as this is not a dedicated fuji forum. I'm just mentioning real concerns for a non experience fuji person.

I'm not sure if your workflow is primarily just headshots......I know I can rock the fuji system without a bead of sweat for that type of static subjects.

The post specifically mentioned wedding application and some travels. Doesn't sound like the OP has used Fuji for events.

Osa, I'm not sure if you shoot events as you've posted many photo's that are static/posed. Individuals all have a preference in their tools when it comes to tracking subjects during events. I'm not talking about using zone AF-c and "SPRAY AND PRAY" cars/bicycles but precise split seconds during an event. Split second photos is different from posed shots or zone AF "spray and pray".

Static subjects or slow moving subjects is no challenge to any modern camera. Nikon/Canon still dominates the wedding world for specific reasons. One criteria is high iso low light performance and the other is extremely reliable AF.

OSA, take a gander at fred miranda in the wedding section or Fuji FM forum and do some reading.

Kim is the only fuji user on POTN I think that shoots Fuji for wedding work...unless I've missed others. He sounds like he's a master in manual focus because that is honestly a criteria for shooting fuji when AF fails you in low light. This is a realistic topic if you dont drink Kool aid and admit pros/cons in the system you use. If you shoot easy static / slow moving subjects you can easily switch to Fuji. If you do use Fuji for weddings you need to master the system and understand that AF is a weak point.

I use two systems. High stress events photography the AF never ever fails me in low light with mirrored bodies. Without a doubt i cannot say the same for Fuji. This is a well documented concern with many wedding photogs. Personal preference and tolerance is very individual. This is why I tell people to TEST/RENT fuji gear and do a testrun!!

Just like anything a wedding photographer has many styles. Some use available light, many used bounced flash and some put more effort and used remote flash. Some are amazing and some are not so amazing. Each and every photog will have preference in tools.

I've used mine for wedding work and I'm pretty sure at least a couple others on this forum have as well.

That's not to say that it's perfect and will work for every shooter, but I have had no real issues with AF and I use only the older Fuji lenses.

If you're not sure, I'd say get a used X-T20 kit and test it out.


Fuji X-Pro2 // Fuji X-T1 // Fuji X-100T // XF 18mm f2 // Rokinon 12mm f2 // XF 35mm f1.4 // Rokinon 21mm f1.4 // XF 18-55mm f/2.8-4 // XF 55-200mm f3.5-4.8 // Rokinon 85mm f1.4 // Zhonghi Lensturbo ii // Various adapted MF lenses
flickr (external link) // Instagram (external link)

LOG IN TO REPLY
Two ­ Hot ­ Shoes
Goldmember
Two Hot Shoes's Avatar
Joined Apr 2014
Ireland
Post has been last edited 2 months ago by Two Hot Shoes. 6 edits done in total.
Aug 11, 2017 11:52 |  #26

While I, on the other had, I use Fuji for almost all of my professional work, including weddings and events to corporate and product as well as editorial and portraits both in and out of the studio (some big name clients in there who don't complain about their being a lack of quality in the files), and get on fine with the 'crappy AF' and 'poor high ISO' that a modern sensor offers, yea it can always be cleaner and who wouldn't love a clean 56000 ISO shot.... Well I don't have to shoot past 12800ISO in my work, including dark weddings, so lucky me. The Fuji rocks it up to there.
BAM! Satisfied Clients images acquired.

Now, no mirror less camera can use a speed light for AF assist, unless you like blinding your clients with the bright point-n-shoot style LED AF assist - no no no. Bad! A DSLR has a separate AF sensor tuned to allow for the infa-red beam. Oh how I wish we could have IR AF assist but alas it is never going to happen. Luckily the cameras focus down to -3EV and, like every camera, the AF will slow down if the light is not there but at least you have the excellent manual focus assist features of a mirrorless camera. I have mine set to zoom in to the selected AF point once I start to turn the focus ring.
BAM! Focus acquired.

I shoot weddings with the X-PRO2 so no grip for me, it keep things really small allowing me to mingle in close, dance on the floor etc.. without drawing attention as the 'photographer' and the camera faces that go with that. Of course I'll go and introduce myself to the guests and ask to take a few posed shots over the day but that is a different thing. Often the conversation turns to the cool little camera - it it a leica - it it a film camera...
BAM! Happiness acquired.

There is a growing Facebook group of wedding x-shooters (external link), over 4200 now, plenty of fine examples of Fuji X-cameras rocking it there i you need to check out how other in the biz are doing, ask question and you will get honest reply.
BAM! large diverse support group acquired.

Batteries are small & light, it's a physical thing. I get about 400 shots on a battery so during a wedding you can always change the battery between important parts so you have a fresh one for the duration of that part - it only takes a few seconds. I've never missed a shot doing it that way and anyway you get loads of warning indoor EVF now a days, they even give you a % value. A good 3rd party one is about €15 - I have 14 now for three cameras so I'm never running out - ever.
BAM! 14 hour wedding shoot acquired.

I dropped my beloved Canon system like a rotten plum once I had a play with an X-PRO2 - even using the pre release one proved to me the direction they where going with the new generation of cameras - this after a little over a year of shooting the older X-T1 side by side. There are a few things that the 5D3 would do that the Fuji cannot but there are far more things that my little camera system can do that I use more often so on balance it make sense for me to move. Flash was one of the last things, using manual flash is fine but can be a little on/off with getting the canon/nikon trigger [mounted on the Fuji hot shoe in single pin mode] to work 100% - mine pushes the ISO up by 2/3 of a stop??? Now we have the first dedicated Fuji triggers with Nissin & Godox [good flashes] and there is more support promised by the likes of Profoto and Elinchrom. HSS and TTL options are here for us at last.
BAM! Fresh fruit acquired.

To me a camera is a camera in the most part, some are better at doing things than others. I just love the feel of using the Fuji cameras they get that bit right for me. Do a google search for Fuji Kaizen to see how they do things with their cameras over time - gaining feed back from their X-Photographers as how to improve the user experience and issues that pop up in use. It's like getting a new camera at times.
BAM! I'm opening a beer as todays final edit has exported... aaahhh... acquired..


Fuji: X-PRO2, X-T1, X-E2 | 16/1.4, 18/2, 23/1.4, 35/1.4, 56/1.2, 90/2, 16-55/2.8, 10-24/4. AD600BM, TT865F, AL-H198, ThinkTank AS2, Peli1514, Ona Bowery, Matthews Grip
flickr (external link)Instagram (external link)Blog (external link)

LOG IN TO REPLY
scorpio_e
THREAD ­ STARTER
Cream of the Crop
scorpio_e's Avatar
Joined Aug 2007
Pa
Aug 11, 2017 12:39 |  #27

Two Hot Shoes wrote in post #18424932 (external link)
While I, on the other had, I use Fuji for almost all of my professional work, including weddings and events to corporate and product as well as editorial and portraits both in and out of the studio (some big name clients in there who don't complain about their being a lack of quality in the files), and get on fine with the 'crappy AF' and 'poor high ISO' that a modern sensor offers, yea it can always be cleaner and who wouldn't love a clean 56000 ISO shot.... Well I don't have to shoot past 12800ISO in my work, including dark weddings, so lucky me. The Fuji rocks it up to there.
BAM! Satisfied Clients images acquired.

Now, no mirror less camera can use a speed light for AF assist, unless you like blinding your clients with the bright point-n-shoot style LED AF assist - no no no. Bad! A DSLR has a separate AF sensor tuned to allow for the infa-red beam. Oh how I wish we could have IR AF assist but alas it is never going to happen. Luckily the cameras focus down to -3EV and, like every camera, the AF will slow down if the light is not there but at least you have the excellent manual focus assist features of a mirrorless camera. I have mine set to zoom in to the selected AF point once I start to turn the focus ring.
BAM! Focus acquired.

I shoot weddings with the X-PRO2 so no grip for me, it keep things really small allowing me to mingle in close, dance on the floor etc.. without drawing attention as the 'photographer' and the camera faces that go with that. Of course I'll go and introduce myself to the guests and ask to take a few posed shots over the day but that is a different thing. Often the conversation turns to the cool little camera - it it a leica - it it a film camera...
BAM! Happiness acquired.

There is a growing Facebook group of wedding x-shooters (external link), over 4200 now, plenty of fine examples of Fuji X-cameras rocking it there i you need to check out how other in the biz are doing, ask question and you will get honest reply.
BAM! large diverse support group acquired.

Batteries are small & light, it's a physical thing. I get about 400 shots on a battery so during a wedding you can always change the battery between important parts so you have a fresh one for the duration of that part - it only takes a few seconds. I've never missed a shot doing it that way and anyway you get loads of warning indoor EVF now a days, they even give you a % value. A good 3rd party one is about €15 - I have 14 now for three cameras so I'm never running out - ever.
BAM! 14 hour wedding shoot acquired.

I dropped my beloved Canon system like a rotten plum once I had a play with an X-PRO2 - even using the pre release one proved to me the direction they where going with the new generation of cameras - this after a little over a year of shooting the older X-T1 side by side. There are a few things that the 5D3 would do that the Fuji cannot but there are far more things that my little camera system can do that I use more often so on balance it make sense for me to move. Flash was one of the last things, using manual flash is fine but can be a little on/off with getting the canon/nikon trigger [mounted on the Fuji hot shoe in single pin mode] to work 100% - mine pushes the ISO up by 2/3 of a stop??? Now we have the first dedicated Fuji triggers with Nissin & Godox [good flashes] and there is more support promised by the likes of Profoto and Elinchrom. HSS and TTL options are here for us at last.
BAM! Fresh fruit acquired.

To me a camera is a camera in the most part, some are better at doing things than others. I just love the feel of using the Fuji cameras they get that bit right for me. Do a google search for Fuji Kaizen to see how they do things with their cameras over time - gaining feed back from their X-Photographers as how to improve the user experience and issues that pop up in use. It's like getting a new camera at times.
BAM! I'm opening a beer as todays final edit has exported... aaahhh... acquired..

Thanks you Kim !!!! Great stuff and I requested the add to the facebook group:)


www.steelcityphotograp​hy.com (external link)

LOG IN TO REPLY
Osa713
Senior Member
Osa713's Avatar
Joined Jun 2011
Houston, TX
Post has been edited 2 months ago by Osa713.
Aug 11, 2017 12:53 |  #28

AlanU wrote in post #18424884 (external link)
No personal attack/snubs necessary thank you.......remember your not sheltered on "changing camera brands" as this is not a dedicated fuji forum. I'm just mentioning real concerns for a non experience fuji person.

I'm not sure if your workflow is primarily just headshots......I know I can rock the fuji system without a bead of sweat for that type of static subjects.

The post specifically mentioned wedding application and some travels. Doesn't sound like the OP has used Fuji for events.

Osa, I'm not sure if you shoot events as you've posted many photo's that are static/posed. Individuals all have a preference in their tools when it comes to tracking subjects during events. I'm not talking about using zone AF-c and "SPRAY AND PRAY" cars/bicycles but precise split seconds during an event. Split second photos is different from posed shots or zone AF "spray and pray".

Static subjects or slow moving subjects is no challenge to any modern camera. Nikon/Canon still dominates the wedding world for specific reasons. One criteria is high iso low light performance and the other is extremely reliable AF.

OSA, take a gander at fred miranda in the wedding section or Fuji FM forum and do some reading.

Kim is the only fuji user on POTN I think that shoots Fuji for wedding work...unless I've missed others. He sounds like he's a master in manual focus because that is honestly a criteria for shooting fuji when AF fails you in low light. This is a realistic topic if you dont drink Kool aid and admit pros/cons in the system you use. If you shoot easy static / slow moving subjects you can easily switch to Fuji. If you do use Fuji for weddings you need to master the system and understand that AF is a weak point.

I use two systems. High stress events photography the AF never ever fails me in low light with mirrored bodies. Without a doubt i cannot say the same for Fuji. This is a well documented concern with many wedding photogs. Personal preference and tolerance is very individual. This is why I tell people to TEST/RENT fuji gear and do a testrun!!

Just like anything a wedding photographer has many styles. Some use available light, many used bounced flash and some put more effort and used remote flash. Some are amazing and some are not so amazing. Each and every photog will have preference in tools.

No personal attacks as that was not my intention and I don't see how we got here.

Let me elaborate on my post. You go thru lengthy post to let users know about your personal experiences with Fuji AF, flash etc and you refer them to other forums so they can see you are not the only one with the same issue.

One would perceive those actions as "you look forward" to doing this as you give alot of information on the given subject matter correct?

And the "kool-aid" comment was a sub so look how we quickly contradicted ourselves. ;-)a


Your image can chosen for the Best Of gallery only if it is in your own member gallery.

LOG IN TO REPLY
hait0622
Member
33 posts
Joined Aug 2017
Aug 11, 2017 14:50 |  #29

Maybe try Sony? I hear good things on the a7rii. Just bad with astrophotography. And maybe bring your lens over with a converter.




LOG IN TO REPLY
AlanU
Cream of the Crop
Joined Feb 2008
Vancouver, BC
Aug 11, 2017 18:42 |  #30

Osa713 wrote in post #18424993 (external link)
No personal attacks as that was not my intention and I don't see how we got here.

Let me elaborate on my post. You go thru lengthy post to let users know about your personal experiences with Fuji AF, flash etc and you refer them to other forums so they can see you are not the only one with the same issue.

One would perceive those actions as "you look forward" to doing this as you give alot of information on the given subject matter correct?

And the "kool-aid" comment was a sub so look how we quickly contradicted ourselves. ;-)a

I said:

"This is a realistic topic if you dont drink Kool aid and admit pros/cons in the system you use" no snub to anyone as I'm clearly explaining human behavior.

Drinking the kool-aid is a common behavior in brand specific forums. The interesting thing about Fuji and M43 is they are extremely tight knit photography communities more than Nikon and Canon these days. Sensitivity is stronger in these "tight knit" communities at this moment in time. You definitely see alot less "tension" between Canon and Nikon these days.

I blindly jumped into Fuji. I never had anyone really explaining the behavior of Fuji AF. One exception is a friend of mine flat out told me he cannot even touch a fuji Camera due to it's AF (I laughed when he said that before ever buying a fuji camera).

Fuji is not for everyone but I think there is a sweet spot for many photogs. Be it Primary system or secondary system.

I'm truly appreciating the fuji lenses. I'll admit the 56mm seems to act like a Canon EF 85 f/1.8 in sharpness and bokeh. I still dont feel it's on par with my 85Lmk2 though.

As you can see i seem to be vocal about the Fuji system. I'm just explaining to the OP that he must test the waters before diving in if Fuji AF can meet his needs for events work. Rent/borrow is the first hand experience in personal uses of his/her tools.


5Dmkiv |5Dmkiii | 80D | 24LmkII | 35mm f/2 IS | 85 mkII L | 100L | EF-S 10-22 | 16-35L mkII | 24-70 f/2.8L mkii| 70-200 f/2.8 ISL mkII| 600EX-RT x2 | 580 EX II x2 | Einstein's
Fuji X-T2 w/battery booster | 16mm f/1.4 | 56 f/1.2 | 10-24 f/4.0 | 55-200 | EF-X500

LOG IN TO REPLY
sponsored links
(this ad will go away when you log in as registered member)

3,404 views & 69 likes for this thread
Moving to Fuji
FORUMS General Gear Talk Changing Camera Brands


Not a member yet? Click here to register to the forums.
Registered members get all the features: search, following threads, own gear list and ratings, likes, more forums, private messaging, thread follow, notifications, own gallery, settings, view hosted photos, own reviews and more...


AAA

Send feedback to staff    •   Jump to forum...    •   Rules    •   Index    •   New posts    •   RTAT    •   'Best of'    •   Gallery    •   Gear    •   Reviews    •   Polls

COOKIES DISCLAIMER: This website uses cookies to improve your user experience. By using this site, you agree to our use of cookies. Privacy policy and cookie usage info.

POWERED BY AMASS 1.4version 1.4
made in Finland
by Pekka Saarinen
for photography-on-the.net
Spent 0.08941 for 6 database queries.
PAGE COMPLETED IN 0.17s
Latest registered member is custecg
841 guests, 297 members online
Simultaneous users record so far is 6106, that happened on Jun 09, 2016