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CAROCK2U
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Jul 10, 2017 14:06 |  #1

I have been debating between the 80D and the 70D. I mostly do Wildlife/Landscapes but will occasionally do some portraits. Before now I have been using a T1i for ages now and as I have began getting more into photography I want to step it up, but not wanting to spend the 5D Mark IV price to save to get more/better glass. Anyone have any experience with these? which would serve my purpose better? I've been leaning towards the 80D but the 70D price from B&H is very appealing. Thanks!




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Jul 10, 2017 14:13 |  #2

I would think that the much improved sensor of the 80D would make the decision easy.


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Jul 10, 2017 17:04 |  #3

Since you want to do wildlife the availability of f/8 AF on the 80D should make this a no brainer really. When it comes to wildlife you never seem to have enough reach, so the option of a 1.4× teleconverter on some of the new super tele zooms like the 100-400L II or the Sigma/Tamron 150-600's, or even the new Sigma 100-400, depending on budget, would make the choice easy.

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Jul 10, 2017 21:32 |  #4

BigAl007 wrote in post #18398927 (external link)
Since you want to do wildlife the availability of f/8 AF on the 80D should make this a no brainer really. When it comes to wildlife you never seem to have enough reach, so the option of a 1.4× teleconverter on some of the new super tele zooms like the 100-400L II or the Sigma/Tamron 150-600's, or even the new Sigma 100-400, depending on budget, would make the choice easy.

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Just to make sure I understood, are you saying the 80D will AF with a 1.4x teleconverter on the 150-600 variety of lenses?




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Jul 12, 2017 18:20 |  #5

Sibil wrote in post #18399093 (external link)
Just to make sure I understood, are you saying the 80D will AF with a 1.4x teleconverter on the 150-600 variety of lenses?


It should, but probably only on the center AF point. I have never seen anything official from them about the full f/8 AF performance with third party lenses, only Canon's own. Considering the limited number of Canon lenses that will AF with the multiple points at f/8, AFAIK the only lens that will offer multiple f/8 points that costs under £3000 is the 100-400 L II, it's not that much different really.

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Jul 12, 2017 18:46 |  #6

BigAl007 wrote in post #18400642 (external link)
It should, but probably only on the center AF point. I have never seen anything official from them about the full f/8 AF performance with third party lenses, only Canon's own. Considering the limited number of Canon lenses that will AF with the multiple points at f/8, AFAIK the only lens that will offer multiple f/8 points that costs under £3000 is the 100-400 L II, it's not that much different really.

Alan

Got it. Thank you.




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Jul 13, 2017 06:27 |  #7

Ive been shooting wildlife, mostly birds and in flight, with the 70D and been very happy with it and gotten very good results with it. That being said, if I was buying new today and deciding between 70 or 80, I'd go 80D. The improved AF and dynamic range over the 70D would be the factors for me that do it.


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Jul 13, 2017 14:21 |  #8

CAROCK2U wrote in post #18398767 (external link)
I have been debating between the 80D and the 70D. I mostly do Wildlife/Landscapes but will occasionally do some portraits.

You should be aware that some people have reported ETTL bounce flash issues with some 70D's that are unresolved by Canon to their satisfaction. It may not be all 70D's but several were affected. See the thread at http://photography-on-the.net ...showthread.php?p=18​400753 for some comments. The thread at http://photography-on-the.net ...read.php?t=1457803&​page=1 shows 479 comments relative to the issue. Finally, review the thread at http://photography-on-the.net ...read.php?t=1457803&​page=1, specifically page 9, post 124 where "Bassat" feels his particular copy of an 80D (he got rid of the 70D because of the issue) seems to bounce ETTL flash fine.




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Aug 16, 2017 15:32 |  #9

You can have a flash that exposes properly on the 80d


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Aug 16, 2017 19:08 |  #10

John from PA wrote in post #18401281 (external link)
You should be aware that some people have reported ETTL bounce flash issues with some 70D's that are unresolved by Canon to their satisfaction. It may not be all 70D's but several were affected. See the thread at http://photography-on-the.net ...showthread.php?p=18​400753 for some comments. The thread at http://photography-on-the.net ...read.php?t=1457803&​page=1 shows 479 comments relative to the issue. Finally, review the thread at http://photography-on-the.net ...read.php?t=1457803&​page=1, specifically page 9, post 124 where "Bassat" feels his particular copy of an 80D (he got rid of the 70D because of the issue) seems to bounce ETTL flash fine.

A fair and accurate summary of my issue with the 70D. Thanks for that.

Frodge wrote in post #18429464 (external link)
You can have a flash that exposes properly on the 80d

I agree. I use my 80D with built-in flash, with shoe-mounted EX flash, with camera controlled multiple Canon flashes, and with YN controlled multiple flashes. I have not encountered a flash problem yet with the 80D.


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