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Aug 18, 2017 22:51 |  #856

I've also got the godox beauty dish that slides right around the bulb and also has the grid.... never used it though. I'd be willing to darn near give it away for shipping cost and maybe a couple of starbucks lol


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Aug 19, 2017 00:16 as a reply to Talley's post |  #857

Seeing how we both live in Houston:lol:




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Aug 19, 2017 10:58 |  #858

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Aug 19, 2017 12:45 |  #859

Talley wrote in post #18431462 (external link)
I've also got the godox beauty dish that slides right around the bulb and also has the grid.... never used it though. I'd be willing to darn near give it away for shipping cost and maybe a couple of starbucks lol

hmmmm I always kinda liked that little guy :)




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Aug 19, 2017 13:32 |  #860

...or some Fappuccino

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Aug 19, 2017 15:12 |  #861

Ok help a newb out guys. Just setup my 36" ricebowl and shot AND metered at 4' away from modifier. The AD360II full power metered ISO 50, 1/8000 and F1.3 The dual AD200 full power metered F0.9 at ISO 50, 1/8000.

Woldn't that mean the AD360 was brighter? Again metered and shot at 48". But the image from the dual AD200 is brighter.

Am I not reading the meter right?

Is this about the proper power setting w/ dual AD200 at 3PM in Texas full sun? The ricebowl with dual AD200 inside home metered F9 at 8' 1/200 and ISO 100 for reference.

Daughter exactly 48" from modifier front diffuser on both images I just got too close for one. BOTH images are ISO 50, 1/8000 F1.4

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Aug 19, 2017 15:13 |  #862

Simple but heavy setup for fill light on camera

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Aug 19, 2017 15:24 |  #863

Just metered inside...

Inside @ 48"
Dual AD200 - 1/8000, ISO 100 = F1.1
Single AD360 - 1/8000, ISO 100 = F1

How is it reversed outdoors?

Seems to me not much difference if at all between them.


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Aug 19, 2017 15:28 |  #864

Talley wrote in post #18431891 (external link)
Just metered inside...

Inside @ 48"
Dual AD200 - 1/8000, ISO 100 = F1.1
Single AD360 - 1/8000, ISO 100 = F1

How is it reversed outdoors?

Seems to me not much difference if at all between them.

Sounds about right for the difference between 360W and 400W

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Aug 19, 2017 15:41 |  #865

The silver bracket is supposed to add a bit more light, and supposedly the dual lights measure within a .5 stop of the 600 per the videos. There is some conflicting reports on this then.


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Aug 19, 2017 15:57 |  #866

Here is another example....

The AD200 is def brighter and exposure matched in lightroom the AD200 requires -.5 adjustment to match the single AD360

So at 48" twin AD200 is more powerful and by lightroom adjustments 1/2 stop with using a 36" cheetastand ricebowl at 48" subject distance in 3pm full sun.

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Aug 19, 2017 15:58 |  #867

dpe wrote in post #18431894 (external link)
Sounds about right for the difference between 360W and 400W

Mike

Isn't the AD360 rated 309ws though?


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Aug 19, 2017 16:03 |  #868

Another thing is exactly what everyone says:

1. The LCD you have to rotate the dial to increase brightness momentarily and even then it's very difficult to read. The AD360 is clearly legible since it uses a standard LCD screen while the AD200 has a black background LCD screen with lighted blue lettering. AD360 uses black LCD letters with standard background so it's easy to read. So I agree I can see this being a pain

2. The AD200's do get really hot baking in the full sun. I can see over time these things getting hot quick. The AD360 however doesn't get so hot since it has less surface area and the battery pack is external. The AD200 battery pack is housed inside the AD200 and bakes right along with the unit and the battery temp further adds to the heat.

Solution: Create a sunshield somehow. I since sold my rogue flashbenders but I could see using these to shield the sun keeping the units cool.

Someone needs to create a soft, velcro type unit of a sun shield one that covers both AD200 and overhangs to aide in seeing the LCD. This would solve all problems.


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Aug 19, 2017 16:05 |  #869

Talley wrote in post #18431880 (external link)
Ok help a newb out guys. Just setup my 36" ricebowl and shot AND metered at 4' away from modifier. The AD360II full power metered ISO 50, 1/8000 and F1.3 The dual AD200 full power metered F0.9 at ISO 50, 1/8000.

Woldn't that mean the AD360 was brighter? Again metered and shot at 48". But the image from the dual AD200 is brighter.

Am I not reading the meter right?

Is this about the proper power setting w/ dual AD200 at 3PM in Texas full sun? The ricebowl with dual AD200 inside home metered F9 at 8' 1/200 and ISO 100 for reference.

Daughter exactly 48" from modifier front diffuser on both images I just got too close for one. BOTH images are ISO 50, 1/8000 F1.4
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Just curious, how did you meter? Was the lumisphere up and pointed toward the light for both meter readings with the meter in the same position near your subject?




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Aug 19, 2017 16:09 |  #870

TeamSpeed wrote in post #18431903 (external link)
The silver bracket is supposed to add a bit more light, and supposedly the dual lights measure within a .5 stop of the 600 per the videos. There is some conflicting reports on this then.

Based on shots with my daughter and the tshirt it's consistent... twin AD200 is 1/2 stop more powerful than the single 360. Meter is the sekonic l-858d-u

I was metering in HSS mode... maybe this is the difference?

Let me do this again on regular metering


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