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Aug 21, 2017 07:18 |  #5191

rantercsr wrote in post #18433067 (external link)
I think I have found my first major complain about Fuji well I'm not sure if it's camera or lens related

But I noticed especially with the 56 that thing's in the distance another words not the main subject in focus often get this weird look
Like a smooth loss of detail type effect almost like smeared

Again it's more evidence a lot more evident with the 56 then it is with my 23
Not really visible when looking at picture normally.. so I'm thinking I shouldn't let it bother me yet it does I've got another 6 days that I can return the 56
But again not sure if this is lens or camera issue then I've also or read that there are issues with Fuji raw files and Lightroom
Tonight I will try to experiment with editing only with Photoshop and see if that helps somehow?

Are you referring to the 'worms'? https://www.exploringe​xposure.com ...pening-fujifilm-raw-files (external link)

I have this with my X100T in Lightroom, I believe it's has improved over the years, and I only get it on foliage. My most recent photos of the heather and trees showed a huge amount of it. I haven't tried other editing software as it's doesn't effect me enough to warrant it, but Capture One etc. don't seem to have this issue.

Which sensor do you have? There's Lightroom sharpening settings that can mitigate the worms.


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Aug 21, 2017 08:32 |  #5192

danialsturge wrote in post #18433071 (external link)
Are you referring to the 'worms'? https://www.exploringe​xposure.com ...pening-fujifilm-raw-files (external link)

I have this with my X100T in Lightroom, I believe it's has improved over the years, and I only get it on foliage. My most recent photos of the heather and trees showed a huge amount of it. I haven't tried other editing software as it's doesn't effect me enough to warrant it, but Capture One etc. don't seem to have this issue.

Which sensor do you have? There's Lightroom sharpening settings that can mitigate the worms.

Thanks for the link.. that could be it.. although its not just in foiliage .. even straight edges take on a weird look..

Ill post a sample photo after work.. ill also try the suggested setting in that link

Xt2 is what im using


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Aug 21, 2017 08:34 |  #5193

rantercsr wrote in post #18433101 (external link)
Thanks for the link.. that could be it.. although its not just in foiliage .. even straight edges take on a weird look..

Ill post a sample photo after work.. ill also try the suggested setting in that link

Xt2 is what im using

It's just most noticeable on foliage, but happens on everything.

The X-Trans III sensor (in the XT2) has less issues than the previous generation, but doesn't seem to have entirely fixed it. Interested to see if the settings make a difference.


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Aug 21, 2017 11:23 as a reply to rantercsr's post |  #5194

Can you dropbox a raw so we can have a look?
- also see: http://www.iridientdig​ital.com/products/xtra​nsformer.html (external link) Supposedly gives a better rendition of detail in X-Trans files


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Aug 21, 2017 11:45 |  #5195

Interesting pub talk site listing dynamic ranges of different cameras. I plonked in a few cameras to see
Canon 5D3 & 4 as well as 80D
Fuji X100f & GFX 50s
PhaseOne IQ3 XF100Mp

Obviously the medium format sensors did the best [ahem PhaseOne] Then the new full frame 5D4 but only narrowly above the little Fuji X100f, Then it's the Canon 80D and last place - no surprises - the 5D3. Until you get above a few hundred ISO and the 80D and 5D3 swap.

What do you think? To me - of the cameras I shot so far - I think it's about right.

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Aug 21, 2017 14:23 |  #5196

My brother, who is an amazing Jazz/funk keyboard player, dropped in with his kids to say hello & ended up jumping in for a shoot. One of the kids not too enamoured with the idea, but we got some smiles anyway.

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Aug 21, 2017 14:59 |  #5197

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I believe this is at 100%.. looking at the blue roller coaster ( or what ever it is...) and the people walking on the board walk

to me have a smeared look..
again .. it is super rare that I would crop an image this much ..
when viewed at normal , its only noticeable to me because now i'm looking for it ..

if you're viewing this on a phone or tablet you wouldn't see it ..

its more of a pixel peeping thing I guess.. I know each have their own characteristics(sony, canon , Nikon etc)

I am curious about capture one.. was before this came along , as I've heard from multiple places that its a bit better in differnet ways

Canon 5DIV*T4i/10-18/24 f2.8/ 35 f1.4Lii /50 f1.4/ 85 f1.8
Pentax k1000* k50 f2*135 f2.
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Aug 21, 2017 15:37 |  #5198

rantercsr wrote in post #18433067 (external link)
I think I have found my first major complain about Fuji well I'm not sure if it's camera or lens related

But I noticed especially with the 56 that thing's in the distance another words not the main subject in focus often get this weird look
Like a smooth loss of detail type effect almost like smeared

Again it's more evidence a lot more evident with the 56 then it is with my 23
Not really visible when looking at picture normally.. so I'm thinking I shouldn't let it bother me yet it does I've got another 6 days that I can return the 56
But again not sure if this is lens or camera issue then I've also or read that there are issues with Fuji raw files and Lightroom
Tonight I will try to experiment with editing only with Photoshop and see if that helps somehow?

Using "just Photoshop" on a RAW file will not help at all. When you open a RAW file into Photoshop, it uses Camera RAW to open the file, which uses the same processing engine as Lightroom does.

If you want to test the difference, download the free Capture One trial and see if it is An Adobe (LR/Camera RAW) issue, which is probably the case, or not.


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Aug 21, 2017 15:48 as a reply to rantercsr's post |  #5199

Looks a little soft to me -


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Aug 21, 2017 16:04 as a reply to Two Hot Shoes's post |  #5200

will take some time in the next couple of days .. most of my shooting has been in less than ideal conditions..
for example that shot , from a couple of days ago .. was a super hot , humid hazy type day.. could environmental conditions have contributed? perhaps.. don't want to be to quick to judge.
the more typical shots that I would take, are very good in termsp of sharpness or just general IQ..
perhaps this is just me really seeing Fuji files and its characteristics and assuming something is wrong because its not what i'm used to looking at ? .. maybe , I know It took me a bit to get used to sonys when I came from canon..
and , again this is only when zooming in like this.. I'm mean super zoomed in , I have some that look like oil paintings .. but I suppose all images will fall apart after so much cropping in

another example..

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[IMAGE'S LINK: https://flic.kr/p/XWQ9​Fx] (external link)DSCF1688 (external link) by Randall Herrera (external link), on Flickr

Canon 5DIV*T4i/10-18/24 f2.8/ 35 f1.4Lii /50 f1.4/ 85 f1.8
Pentax k1000* k50 f2*135 f2.
Fuji XT2 // 23 f2/ 50 f2
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Aug 21, 2017 16:16 |  #5201

Aside from this bump in the road , I've been very happy with the Fuji xt2 and 23 f2..
as for the 56 , its a fine lens ..sometimes I think I should have gotten the 50 f2, but if I had done that , sometimes I would have thought I should have gotten the 56 1.2 sooo;-)a

I did try the capture one trial just now .. and seems the same as far as "smearing " I see..
so not rreallly sure what that means-?

but .. Capture one does seem a bit better than LR in its controls layout , but I swore I wouldn't spend anymore money on photography for a while:-P
if all I used was LR i'd probably give them my money,, but I also use PS and Premier , Audition, and After effects..


Canon 5DIV*T4i/10-18/24 f2.8/ 35 f1.4Lii /50 f1.4/ 85 f1.8
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Aug 21, 2017 16:20 |  #5202

rantercsr wrote in post #18433413 (external link)
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I believe this is at 100%.. looking at the blue roller coaster ( or what ever it is...) and the people walking on the board walk

to me have a smeared look..
again .. it is super rare that I would crop an image this much ..
when viewed at normal , its only noticeable to me because now i'm looking for it ..

if you're viewing this on a phone or tablet you wouldn't see it ..

its more of a pixel peeping thing I guess.. I know each have their own characteristics(sony, canon , Nikon etc)

I am curious about capture one.. was before this came along , as I've heard from multiple places that its a bit better in differnet ways

If the camera shop provides you a free shipping label I'd just swap copies of the lens. Otherwise find someone locally to test your copy of the lens.

Photos that are hosted on the web is not easy to judge. Is the day have pollutants in the air?? That can be a contributing factor.

I'm pleased with my 56mm lens. I would test your lens in all kinds of lighting from open shade to sun. Vary the distance of your subject and see if there is a pattern. So far I've used my 56mm for portraits and it's been pleasing and sharp and some "distant" snap shots.

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On my IPS panel my photo is reasonably sharp. This was even taken when we had an orange sun from the smoke from forest fires.

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Aug 21, 2017 16:27 as a reply to AlanU's post |  #5203

i'm actually waiting for the sun to go down a bit .. , I live on the 6th floor and get a nice view , but its still kind of hazy at the moment

I was considering returning for a different copy .. i'm not a fussy buyer normally but maybe that's the way to go


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Aug 21, 2017 16:31 |  #5204

rantercsr wrote in post #18433466 (external link)
will take some time in the next couple of days .. most of my shooting has been in less than ideal conditions..
for example that shot , from a couple of days ago .. was a super hot , humid hazy type day.. could environmental conditions have contributed? perhaps.. don't want to be to quick to judge.
the more typical shots that I would take, are very good in termsp of sharpness or just general IQ..
perhaps this is just me really seeing Fuji files and its characteristics and assuming something is wrong because its not what i'm used to looking at ? .. maybe , I know It took me a bit to get used to sonys when I came from canon..
and , again this is only when zooming in like this.. I'm mean super zoomed in , I have some that look like oil paintings .. but I suppose all images will fall apart after so much cropping in

another example..
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[IMAGE'S LINK: https://flic.kr/p/XWQ9​Fx] (external link)DSCF1688 (external link) by Randall Herrera (external link), on Flickr

The image you've posted does not look very good for a prime. I'll have to say the 55-200 is substantially better even at 55 all the way to 200mm.

I'd suggest quickly going to a local shop and test another lens with your body. See if that replicates the issue. Shoot down the street or something at far distances. I'd imagine it'd be more of a potential lens issue than body.


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Aug 21, 2017 16:54 |  #5205

rantercsr wrote in post #18433466 (external link)
will take some time in the next couple of days .. most of my shooting has been in less than ideal conditions..
for example that shot , from a couple of days ago .. was a super hot , humid hazy type day.. could environmental conditions have contributed? perhaps.. don't want to be to quick to judge.
the more typical shots that I would take, are very good in termsp of sharpness or just general IQ..
perhaps this is just me really seeing Fuji files and its characteristics and assuming something is wrong because its not what i'm used to looking at ? .. maybe , I know It took me a bit to get used to sonys when I came from canon..
and , again this is only when zooming in like this.. I'm mean super zoomed in , I have some that look like oil paintings .. but I suppose all images will fall apart after so much cropping in

another example..
QUOTED IMAGE
[IMAGE'S LINK: https://flic.kr/p/XWQ9​Fx] (external link)DSCF1688 (external link) by Randall Herrera (external link), on Flickr

I was just about to post that to me it just looks like environmental (heat) haze.


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