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7D Mark III and 90D in early 2018?

 
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Jul 20, 2017 09:54 as a reply to post 18406661 |  #16

Marm O. Set wrote:
--- Canons 1080p video quality gets spanked by every other brand out there. They NEED to fix this or they will be in trouble. And Canon, its 2017; 4K is a MUST ADD feature. Seriously, how can they not have this on most of their cameras by now?!?! I've used the 4K video on a 5D mark IV and its super lame how it is cropped to basically an APS-C size.

There is apparently a heat issue created with a FF sensor is used for 4K video capture at higher FPS, and Sony is now the subject of many of the claims of overheating, not just in the new A9 but also in other models.
So a 7DIII at 4K is not too farfetched a possibility, if the 5DIV crops down to APS-C video.


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I didn't realize the light meter was missing from the mark ii. Yeah, bring that back! I can't believe they left that off.

They did not leave off the light metering scale, they simply repositioned the exposure metering scale in M mode to the right hand side of the viewfinder, while leaving the Exposure Compensation scale at the bottom of the viewfinder.

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The way I see it, Canon is getting stomped by Sony and they really need to step up their game. Most of the Canon camera bodies come soooooo close to being awesome but then there is one or two features that make them "merely great" instead of awesome. I'd love to see Canon hit this one out of the ballpark.

Nikon has been losing market share to Sony, so it is Nikon getting 'stomped', particularly in their home market. But in April 2017, it was also announced that Sony has just overtaken Nikon in the full-frame interchangeable lens camera market in the U.S. Sony interchangeable lens camera and lenses are on a record sales pace this year, having grown 23 percent from the same period in 2016. But a flaw in that claim is that they are counting DOLLARS rather than UNITS. Another part of the claim is that the overall market has grown about 5% as a result of the Sony growth.


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Jul 20, 2017 10:05 as a reply to Wilt's post |  #17

interesting; thanks for the feedback.

It will be interesting to see how Sony influences Canon's future decisions. There are interesting dynamics at play when you are strategizing your products. Your market share tends to determine how aggressive you should play. It seems like Canon is comfy in the #1 spot and is strategizing accordingly.

It might not make the best business sense for them but I would love for the 7D mark iii to really push some boundaries. A guy can dream, right? :rolleyes:


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Aug 03, 2017 22:25 |  #18

Marm O. Set wrote in post #18406704 (external link)
interesting; thanks for the feedback.

It will be interesting to see how Sony influences Canon's future decisions. There are interesting dynamics at play when you are strategizing your products. Your market share tends to determine how aggressive you should play. It seems like Canon is comfy in the #1 spot and is strategizing accordingly.

It might not make the best business sense for them but I would love for the 7D mark iii to really push some boundaries. A guy can dream, right? :rolleyes:


Don't expect boundaries pushed. That hasn't been their M.O. these last 8-10 years Same 24MP sensor that's out....because it's good(maybe different even though the original 7d had the 18mp that all the lower bodies had) flip touchscreen w/ 4k. Probably 12FPS/14 in liveview. The same AF system # of points but all points f8 lens combo accessible. And it'll get the 1Dx2 metering system.

So it'll be all around better, but not ground breaking. Honestly, without completely changing it's system, I'm not sure what it would have to include to be ground breaking. Adding DR and low noise high ISO is always a wish but seriously it's a really good camera already and adding a stop of gain in both of those wouldn't make the 7d3 ground breaking. I would love reduced/no AA filter but I know that could seriously add moire in feather/fur patterns for wildlife photographers, maybe a touch light on it's application??

Side note, the dual card slots is the only reason why I went 7d2 instead of the 80D.


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Aug 11, 2017 14:54 |  #19

My opinion is that No One is going to jump on a 7D3 unless they can figure out how to get the noise under control with a crop sensor and they can make substantial gains in dark/shadow retention capabilities.

7D1 to a 7D2 jump got you a stop of ISO and a better af system and the AF system on the 7D1 was pretty good

Crop sensor is having a hard time keeping up with what they did with the new sensors on the 5D4 and 1Dx2

I see no reason to jump unless they can fix these issues


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Aug 11, 2017 15:29 |  #20

umphotography wrote in post #18425107 (external link)
My opinion is that No One is going to jump on a 7D3 unless they can figure out how to get the noise under control with a crop sensor and they can make substantial gains in dark/shadow retention capabilities.

Funny, I have a 7Dii and I have yet to be driven to paroxysms of despair over the noise level or shadow quality. I must be doing something wrong.


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Aug 28, 2017 11:32 as a reply to joedlh's post |  #21

Me too, love the 7D2, but a better sensor and whatever upgrade goodies they'll give and I'll hve my 7D2 wore out and ready for a 7D3.. saving pennies now!


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Aug 28, 2017 11:49 as a reply to umphotography's post |  #22

This was a 100% crop comparison raw between the 5D3 and 7D2 at ISO 6400. There is noise, sure, but is it really out of control?

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