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AlanU
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Sep 01, 2017 03:18 |  #5281

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The Canon gear would have to go, the age of my 7D is against it, time has moved on and there's much better options for £££ out there. I have 3 children, 6m, 2 & 4 so we're fully loaded wherever we go before I even think about camera gear. With all I've brought away, my phone has probably taken the most shots. I'll have to do some research on the Fuji 100-400, and the 1.4tc, if that's favourable, that'll be the direction I'll go in. Right now I'm favouring the XT-1 with the 23/56 and then either the Fuji 14mm, the Fuji 10-24mm or the Samyang 12mm. If anyone can chip in with their findings on any of these that'll be helpful.


I'm busy with a 10, 8 and 4yrs old so I can relate.........

With your current Canon gear you'd be getting a big jump in IQ just by purchasing a 7dmk2 or 80D compared to your 7d. I've found the 80D to be just a tad bigger than a panasonic GH3/GH4 micro 4/3 camera. 80D dual pixel AF technology with touchscreen is an incredible camera that can be used like a camcorder. Something you should consider if your doing video documentation of growing kids. If you like the 56mm range (FOV) you can lug a Canon 35 f/2IS and be incredibly pleased with the incredible optics of that small light lens for portrait type photos or when you want that 50mm kinda look.

My Fuji 16mm and 10-24mm is what I use to capture my style of photography for human subjects. The 56mm gets used more now too but up close photos UWA and wide angle is what I use to document. Hard to be physically far from my kids when they were young if your solo on an outing.

With my spider holster with thinktank lens bags and speed changer pouch I can lug a 2 lenses, camera mounted with lens (3 lens in total) and a fuji flash with no backpacks. I take my 3 children out solo all of the time even when they were younger. Just think I used to do this with my Canon gear!!!

Pick the tools for your application. I will either use two canon bodies at once or a combo Canon/fuji. Do what gets the job done :)

Now with my 80D, 5dmk4, and X-t2 I incorporate more video documenting my children's growth. I'm not a super skilled videographer so I actually appreciate my Canon Dual pixel AF more than my Fuji when it comes to video.


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Sep 01, 2017 05:13 |  #5282

The Panasonic GH4/5 is a big camera, indeed almost as chunky as a Canon 80D/7D. If you are looking at smallifying your gear your not going to get it there. I mostly use my iPhone for video of my kids - great slo-mo and the 4K is alright too but for stills not so much.

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Sep 01, 2017 08:07 |  #5283

Observation... photos of buildings I've taken with my Fuji seem to be keystoning way more than anything I took on my 6D. I was thinking about this and is it the actual size of the glass? I mean the EF glass is physically larger in diameter than the X series glass. Does this make sense or am I getting it completely wrong?


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Sep 01, 2017 09:17 |  #5284

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Sep 01, 2017 09:48 as a reply to rantercsr's post |  #5285

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Sep 01, 2017 10:48 |  #5286

Two Hot Shoes wrote in post #18441984 (external link)
The Panasonic GH4/5 is a big camera, indeed almost as chunky as a Canon 80D/7D. If you are looking at smallifying your gear your not going to get it there. I mostly use my iPhone for video of my kids - great slo-mo and the 4K is alright too but for stills not so much.

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The camera might not buy you much, but the lens difference in size and weight is no joke.


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Sep 01, 2017 11:08 |  #5287

F2Bthere wrote in post #18442157 (external link)
The camera might not buy you much, but the lens difference in size and weight is no joke.

Yep full frame lenses do tend to be heaver, least the comparative quality ones are, ahem Sigma Art...
Well the X-T20 is only 383g. The 80D is730g. [7D2 is 910g!].

That makes the Canon almost double the weight of the Fuji. Just saying...


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Sep 01, 2017 12:35 |  #5288

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If anyone can recommend a good quality screen protector for the xt2 it would be greatly appreciated.. got its first scratch.. tiny , only visible when off and angled at light in a certain way , but its bugging me.. and anyway thats how it starts :-|

I dont mind paying for good quality protector

Here you go, works very well for me. I wouldn't buy anything super expensive as they all work the same imo.

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AlanU
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Sep 01, 2017 13:09 |  #5289

Two Hot Shoes wrote in post #18442168 (external link)
Yep full frame lenses do tend to be heaver, least the comparative quality ones are, ahem Sigma Art...
Well the X-T20 is only 383g. The 80D is730g. [7D2 is 910g!].

That makes the Canon almost double the weight of the Fuji. Just saying...

What's weird about the 80D is that the grip is so comfy and supportive. The 80D does not have the "I'm gonna drop this camera" feel like all of my Fuji's. The step in the 80D grip is so safe in comparison to the little bumpy grip of the fuji. But no doubt the Canon lenses are pig big if you compare to Fuji. I'm finding the X-t2 with battery booster needs more material at the hand grip area to increase the size even more. X-t2 battery booster was poorly designed IMO if your looking for more substantial grip.

I'll have to say the overseas made aluminum grip I added to my previous X-t10 was excellent. Wrapped it up with GT5000 grip tape and it's made that camera marginally heavier but ultra safe in substantial meatier to hang onto.

The Canon DPAF is still one of the best things a mirrored body can appreciate. Video tracking is still much better than fuji video. However in camera SOOC video with film preset the Fuji is very pleasing. I love having both systems as demanding light is not a challenge with my 5dmk4 for video for my purposes. The 80D is roughly as noisy as the Fuji in terms of low light video. Canon 24-70L f/2.8mk2 on the 80D for video makes it absolutely insane quality glass for video with acceptable range of different focal lengths with constant aperture f/2.8 glass.


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Sep 01, 2017 14:39 |  #5290

AlanU wrote in post #18442236 (external link)
What's weird about the 80D is that the grip is so comfy and supportive. The 80D does not have the "I'm gonna drop this camera" feel like all of my Fuji's. The step in the 80D grip is so safe in comparison to the little bumpy grip of the fuji. But no doubt the Canon lenses are pig big if you compare to Fuji. I'm finding the X-t2 with battery booster needs more material at the hand grip area to increase the size even more. X-t2 battery booster was poorly designed IMO if your looking for more substantial grip.

I'll have to say the overseas made aluminum grip I added to my previous X-t10 was excellent. Wrapped it up with GT5000 grip tape and it's made that camera marginally heavier but ultra safe in substantial meatier to hang onto.

The Canon DPAF is still one of the best things a mirrored body can appreciate. Video tracking is still much better than fuji video. However in camera SOOC video with film preset the Fuji is very pleasing. I love having both systems as demanding light is not a challenge with my 5dmk4 for video for my purposes. The 80D is roughly as noisy as the Fuji in terms of low light video. Canon 24-70L f/2.8mk2 on the 80D for video makes it absolutely insane quality glass for video with acceptable range of different focal lengths with constant aperture f/2.8 glass.

This video has been tossed around a lot already, but I still think it's funny because I totally agree with him :lol: Thoughts on the grip at about 2 minutes in ;)

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Sep 01, 2017 14:53 |  #5291

EverydayGetaway wrote in post #18442308 (external link)
This video has been tossed around a lot already, but I still think it's funny because I totally agree with him :lol: Thoughts on the grip at about 2 minutes in ;)

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Sep 01, 2017 15:20 |  #5292

AlanU wrote in post #18442236 (external link)
What's weird about the 80D is that the grip is so comfy and supportive. The 80D does not have the "I'm gonna drop this camera" feel like all of my Fuji's. The step in the 80D grip is so safe in comparison to the little bumpy grip of the fuji. But no doubt the Canon lenses are pig big if you compare to Fuji. I'm finding the X-t2 with battery booster needs more material at the hand grip area to increase the size even more. X-t2 battery booster was poorly designed IMO if your looking for more substantial grip.


I've never had this "I'm gonna drop this camera" feeling you talk about [not in two years of chucking those Fuji cameras about]. In the same way I can pick up a small cup of espresso and not drop it. A stein of German beer with a tiny handle on the other hand, yep that's going down @9.8m/s. Perhaps I'm unusual [Some people say that about me] but I find the tiny grip on the x-pro2 fine for my rather large hands.

Yes, I remember trying out the DPAF on the 70D & at the time it was how things should be. Pity about the poor quality control on the VF AF. Apart from that the 70D was a nice camera & from what I've read the 80D is much better. Although I doubt I go as far as saying the video is as good as on the X-T2. After all the 80D maxes out at 1080P/60! & no log output [not yet anyway]. Also no mention on what bitrate the output is, the X-T2 is 105Mbps/s in 4K, 8-bit, 4:2:2, with no pixel binning and no line skipping. That is a good video output right there, not any way near the best but really very good & I seriously doubt the Canon's 80D even get close. The 5D4 can push 4K 500Mbp/s but only in motion jpeg so that'll make for a fun day in post.... Mp4 only gets 60 in full HD. I guess Canon want you to buy a C100/200/300/700 etc...

Plus you get Fuji's profiles to shoot with in the full video if you like Classic Chrome [or whatever] video 105Mbit 4K - that'll do, if you don't want to colour grade later. OR shoot in F-log and make use of the increased dynamic range the Fuji offers over the 80D. Not bashing the 80D - I really liked my 70D - but in terms of video output the only thing it has going for it [over the X-T2] is an 'Auto' feature with it's DPAF.


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Sep 01, 2017 16:02 |  #5293

AlanU wrote in post #18442236 (external link)
I'm finding the X-t2 with battery booster needs more material at the hand grip area to increase the size even more. X-t2 battery booster was poorly designed IMO if your looking for more substantial grip.

That's why they make a hand grip ;-)a its become my must have accessory and is basically glued on my X-T2.

The batter booster is just for batteries :lol:


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Sep 01, 2017 16:56 |  #5294

the 80d's grip in my opinion is the perfect size for my hands and ergos are very good ..
the worst I've ever had was sony's a6500 . sony a7 series are fine though
the xt2 for me has been fine.. but I cant come in thinking of the 80d or yeah if feels smaller

the 80d's video is ok .,. its best feature of course is its worry free auto focusing system.

I had the a7sii and loved the video out of it . but sometimes found myself using the 80d for its ease of use

I haven't really messed much with video on the xt2 , but what little I have i'm impressed with it
AF in video is ok , not as smooth as the 80d but its alright ,

seen that video before ..regarding Fuji grip :lol:
was a good one!

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Sep 01, 2017 20:36 |  #5295

after having the 50f2 for a couple of days , I can say I would bet it all that there was defintly something wrong with the 56 I had..

all I've heard about the 56 is that it is a sharp lens .

and my new 50f2 is more impressive than the 56 I had .. not that anyone was saying that the 50 was no good .. but even my 23f2 seemed sharper than the 56 , and while most reviews say the 23 is fine , there are more than one or two reports saying its sharpness is not that impressive.

had a portrait session that went well even though it went all kinds of wrong :lol:
wind wreaked havoc on my lighting as well as the models hair ..

but overall very satisfied with the results ..
my biggest complaint with sony was skin tones and how hard I had to work to get them to look satisfactory .. I know that getting them to look awesome is possible , as there are some very capable fellas on the sony lounge thread that do great work ...but I struggled , that was one of the reasons I bought the 80d
anyway so far with Fuji I've been happy with skintones, and after todays portrait session even happier:-)


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