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Sep 04, 2017 16:06 |  #6571

zorroa3 wrote in post #18444229 (external link)
Thank you for all of your input. So I will leave the lens as it is :lol:

Today I had the chance to first try the lens in the park.

No filter on any of my lenses.

No straps either.

Lens hood always.

Do your shoulder and neck a favor and get the Spider Holster. You will never look back.


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Sep 04, 2017 16:49 |  #6572

LJ3Jim wrote in post #18444459 (external link)
I agree with the Cotton Carrier for more rigorous hiking. I use a BlackRapid Yeti (now the Hybrid Breathe) for general walk-arounds. I almost always have two cameras. Apparently I'm the youngster in this conversation -- I'm just 64. ;-)a


At a quarter of the price here, I wonder what the chinese knock offs are like? http://www.ebay.com.au ...id=p2047675.c100005​.m1851 (external link)

I've been buying the mohle system pouches and backpacks because of their camo coulouration and it's amazing quality and tough as old boots...............55​litre camo backpack complete with detachable pouches to belt wear for $24! These cotton knock offs seem to be from the same stable

IMAGE: https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4373/36195705514_5af094140e_b.jpg
[IMAGE'S LINK: https://flic.kr/p/X9us​db] (external link)harness (external link) by Kevin Dickinson (external link), on Flickr

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Sep 04, 2017 17:41 |  #6573

bidkev wrote in post #18444506 (external link)
At a quarter of the price here, I wonder what the chinese knock offs are like? http://www.ebay.com.au ...id=p2047675.c100005​.m1851 (external link)

I've been buying the mohle system pouches and backpacks because of their camo coulouration and it's amazing quality and tough as old boots...............55​litre camo backpack complete with detachable pouches to belt wear for $24! These cotton knock offs seem to be from the same stable

A while back I spoke to the Cotton Carrier folks about some custom mods (I wanted MOLLE mounts). They mentioned in passing that the Chinese knock-offs were seriously undermining them. They are a small almost artisan shop, designing and building their own stuff. Good news is the personal care and touch that goes into every product. Bad news is that they do not do well with the parasites like these. The cost that goes into their products is not just material and immediate labor, nor just profit, but to support the design, development, research, and innovation of those and other new products. The parasites, of course, do not need to pay for that, which, when added to cheaper material (in terms of price due to sourcing; not make any judgement in quality here) and labor (ditto), allows them to undercut the originals in ways that they just cannot compete. Your money is your money, of course, to spend as you wish ... but thought I would share with you what I learned and led me to not only decide then and there not to get those knock-offs, but go ahead and get the Version 2 of the vest even though my version 1 was working just fine. Simply to support such a great product and shop!


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Sep 04, 2017 17:47 |  #6574

bidkev wrote in post #18444197 (external link)
Me neither. I rely on the lens hood and simply being careful. I don't see the point in spending megabucks on decent glass and then degrading it with another sheet of glass, no matter how good that filter is purported to be.

It amazes me though just how many pros (press etc) that i see with good gear and yet no lens hood. It's the same for the Japanese tourists over here...............the​y have good kit and yet no lens hoods? I even have a hood on my pancakes

Most amazing of all is people who have the hood on their lens, but leave it reversed, so that it performs no function apart from preventing them accessing zoom and/or focus rings!!!


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Sep 04, 2017 18:47 |  #6575

Pondrader wrote in post #18444466 (external link)
I have moved away from straps completely. nothing puts more wear on the outside of the lens than rubbing on your clothing and such. I use the lens foot as a hand hold and a lens coat as a external protector and I'm not hindered in anyway. most days I do 10k like this, sometimes more.

Today was no different.
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I'll see your grass-eater and raise you two!

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Pretty harmless compared to your scary looking monsters, but the males are not to be trifled with. I will need to get much closer to get a photo of any quality - these boys would have been at least 200 metres away!

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PS - thanks for "liking" my bird photos!

Cheers

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Sep 04, 2017 19:04 |  #6576

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[IMAGE'S LINK: https://flic.kr/p/Y7vo​BY] (external link)King Parrot female (2) (external link) by Kevin Dickinson (external link), on Flickr

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[IMAGE'S LINK: https://flic.kr/p/Y91A​HU] (external link)King Parrot female (1) (external link) by Kevin Dickinson (external link), on Flickr

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Sep 04, 2017 20:05 |  #6577

jeetsukumaran wrote in post #18444317 (external link)
The best[1] way to carry this lens, bar none, is without a doubt and by a long margin, is simply the Cotton Carrier vest harness: https://www.cottoncarr​ier.com/collections/ca​mera-vests (external link) .

Put it on, and you do not feel the weight, not just a for the first hours, but all day, and sometimes at night. Yet, the camera is ready to shoot in a split second. And no, it does not get in the way at all. Best of all, it leaves your back and waist free for a full-suspension backpack with hip belt. I've carried the 100-400 II + 7DMk2 + Battery-grip using this harness on foot, on 4WD, on horseback, kayak, boat, ship, etc., across (and up and down and left and right) deserts, rainforests, peat swamps, marshes, mangroves, prairies, mountains, hills, stormy seas, etc.. Never let me down. The only problem is that it does such a great job of distributing the weight that sometimes you forget you are actually carrying a large lens in front of you and lean forward and bump up against the dash of the landrover or boat or whatever. NBD.

Reviews:

https://www.youtube.co​m/watch?v=E_ld2s_xXuY (external link)

https://www.youtube.co​m/watch?v=EfBPlZxlCOQ (external link)

https://www.youtube.co​m/watch?v=_VmI3rTBGmQ (external link)

[1] If and only if you don't care about how you look LOL ...

Thanks for the review links :D

May I ask do you attach it to the body or the lens?




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Sep 04, 2017 20:59 |  #6578

zorroa3 wrote in post #18444613 (external link)
Thanks for the review links :D

May I ask do you attach it to the body or the lens?

I attach it to the body for this lens. You can also attach the hub to an Arca-Swiss clamp, and clamp it to your body when needed and take it off when not, to avoid having this bit sticking out when you are not using it.


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Sep 04, 2017 21:06 |  #6579

Armidillo wrote in post #18444568 (external link)
I'll see your grass-eater and raise you two!

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Pretty harmless compared to your scary looking monsters, but the males are not to be trifled with. I will need to get much closer to get a photo of any quality - these boys would have been at least 200 metres away!

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PS - thanks for "liking" my bird photos!

Cheers

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One day I hope I can get a crack at those Kangaroo. If I can find the courage to step on Australian soil. the things you have scary the crap out of me.
eight foot tall 800-1000lbs monsters I can deal with..... and your welcome.

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Sep 04, 2017 22:38 |  #6580

A couple more from Canada...

No fault of the lens, but I have found that trying to sneak up to wildlife with an aluminum boat (i.e. loud), painted bright red, with only a 20 hp outboard (i.e. louder) to power it from the middle of a lake is impossible!

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Sep 04, 2017 23:07 |  #6581

Here's one with my 2xIII. This juvenile was just days away from making his/her first flight.

I wanted to test out the 2x with the 100-400. This image is uncropped vertically but it was cropped horizontally as it was originally shot horizontally. Keep in mind that I was shooting from a boat. A drifting boat. Focusing manually. So I'm OK with the image degradation.

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Sep 05, 2017 01:03 |  #6582

Pondrader wrote in post #18444665 (external link)
One day I hope I can get a crack at those Kangaroo. If I can find the courage to step on Australian soil. the things you have scary the crap out of me.
eight foot tall 800-1000lbs monsters I can deal with..... and your welcome.
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Ya know what they say about Oz Jeff? If it doesn't growl at you, it spits at you, if it doesn't spit, it stings, if it doesn't sting, it bites, and if it doesn't bite, it swallows you whole...............an​d that's only the mosquitoes :lol:


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Sep 05, 2017 06:19 |  #6583

bidkev wrote in post #18444813 (external link)
Ya know what they say about Oz Jeff? If it doesn't growl at you, it spits at you, if it doesn't spit, it stings, if it doesn't sting, it bites, and if it doesn't bite, it swallows you whole...............an​d that's only the mosquitoes :lol:

Ya I get that.. Thats why I'm probably never going to meet you Kev.. lol

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Sep 05, 2017 10:28 |  #6584

Some football pre-game shots before it got dark and I had to put the lens up.


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Sep 05, 2017 11:03 |  #6585

jeetsukumaran wrote in post #18444537 (external link)
A while back I spoke to the Cotton Carrier folks about some custom mods (I wanted MOLLE mounts). They mentioned in passing that the Chinese knock-offs were seriously undermining them. They are a small almost artisan shop, designing and building their own stuff. Good news is the personal care and touch that goes into every product. Bad news is that they do not do well with the parasites like these. The cost that goes into their products is not just material and immediate labor, nor just profit, but to support the design, development, research, and innovation of those and other new products. The parasites, of course, do not need to pay for that, which, when added to cheaper material (in terms of price due to sourcing; not make any judgement in quality here) and labor (ditto), allows them to undercut the originals in ways that they just cannot compete. Your money is your money, of course, to spend as you wish ... but thought I would share with you what I learned and led me to not only decide then and there not to get those knock-offs, but go ahead and get the Version 2 of the vest even though my version 1 was working just fine. Simply to support such a great product and shop!

What's amazing is that there's such stringent patent trolling leading to frivilous lawsuits and money grabs, but when it comes to a real company making a real product, they get shafted by cheap china made garbage.




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