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35mm f2 IS, upgrade to 35L (V1). Worth it?

 
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Sep 13, 2017 07:59 |  #1

Hi there. I've been searching and searching but haven't been able to make up my mind.

I shoot a 5d (mk1) and am still quite happy with it, so there's no 'upgrade' planned, period.

I own 3 lenses - 35 f2 IS, 50 1.8 II, and 85 f1.8. The 35 is on the camera 99% of the time, and I've really grown to appreciate it as a 'do it all' lens. I shoot everything I can with it, but I'm looking for more unique shots (bokeh!).
I shoot everything from landscapes, cars, people, architecture, and so on.

The comparisons I've read are all over the place. Some say the 35 f2 IS is just as good as the 35L (V1) or better - some of those say the Sigma Art is the way to go, while others maintain that the V2 35L is the only upgrade. Others say the old 'L' is still in a different league and beats out the f2 IS. Frankly I think I've read so much I've become even more confused, lol.

Here are my thoughts. Eventually I want a 35L, 85L and 135L. If I were to buy the 35L V1, I'll keep the 35 f2 IS and put it on my 35mm Rebel. OR I could trade in the f2 IS and get the 35L V2.


Any thoughts or tips would be greatly appreciated.

Here's a few examples of what I like to shoot.

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I do like to shoot with a shallow DOF, but I find my current 35 best at 2.8.

I do use the IS, though without it I'd just crank the ISO I guess. I have noticed recently the IS motor is noisy when it's cold. Not sure if it has any effect on its functioning. Hard to tell at 35mm on a FF.

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Sep 13, 2017 08:20 |  #2

I wouldn't trade my 35 IS for the LII, let alone the first version. The difference between f/1.4 and f/2 is too small to matter very much. The difference between IS and hand-holding at slow shutter speeds can be huge. Love my 35 IS on both formats.


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Sep 13, 2017 08:43 as a reply to Bassat's post |  #3

Thanks for the response.

Maybe I should rent one of them? My initial plan was to get the 135L first, and now you have me thinking that way again. I can't recall the last time I felt so, 'wishy-washy.'

I really have no complaints, I just want something more. If history tells me anything it's just a sign that I need to work a little harder.

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Still very welcome to input. Thanks.

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Sep 13, 2017 08:59 |  #4

ONLY if you NEED 1.4.

The 35 f2 IS simply kicks ass for it's size/weight/cost. Get the 135L instead.


Getting better at this - Fuji Xt-2 - Fuji X-Pro2 - 18-55 - 35 f2 WR - 50-140 - 6D - 135L - 70-200 f4L IS - 600EX-RT x2 - ST-E3-RT - flickr (external link) - www.scottaticephoto.co​m (external link)

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Sep 13, 2017 18:14 |  #5

the 1.4 and 1.4ii are both great lenses. well worth the upgrade for the photo quality. both L lenses have a strong feel to them. professional looking photos, vs the amateur of the f2, which has too much purple when wide open.


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Sep 13, 2017 20:14 |  #6

lucky7 wrote in post #18451152 (external link)
Thanks for the response.

Maybe I should rent one of them? My initial plan was to get the 135L first, and now you have me thinking that way again. I can't recall the last time I felt so, 'wishy-washy.'

I really have no complaints, I just want something more. If history tells me anything it's just a sign that I need to work a little harder.

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Still very welcome to input. Thanks.

The IQ difference between the 35IS and either 35L is significantly less than the IQ lost when cropping an image from the 85/1.8 out to 135 equivalent. I would get the 135L first.


Canon 7D/350D, Σ17-50/2.8 OS, 18-55IS, 24-105/4 L IS, Σ30/1.4 EX, 50/1.8, C50/1.4, 55-250IS, 60/2.8, 70-200/4 L IS, 85/1.8, 100/2.8 IS L, 135/2 L 580EX II, 430EX II * 2, 270EX II.

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Sep 13, 2017 21:22 |  #7

Heya,

The 35 F2 IS is sharper and better at pretty much everything over the old V1 35L. But consider the age. If you want the top shelf 35mm, it's the 35L II or the 35 ART. If you just want a great 35mm that is nearly as good as the best stuff, the 35 F2 IS is it. It's that good. But with IS, which the best completely lack.

I use the 5Dc and 35 F2 IS as well. I've had the F1.4 35mm glass. I'd rather have 4 stops of IS than F1.4. The depth of field that you get with F1.4 at 35mm isn't that much more. It's not worth it to me, compared to a lighter, sharper, image stabilized lens.

Best thing to do is just to rent it all and see for yourself.

If you're crazy for thin depth of field, play more with 85mm.

And there's literally nothing unique about thin depth of field shots. Not sure what you're looking for with that particular concept.

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Sep 14, 2017 00:40 |  #8

The 85mm is a completely different lens than the 35mm. The 85mm should not be in the topic to replace a 35mm.


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Sep 14, 2017 06:45 |  #9

CH_Devin wrote in post #18451772 (external link)
The 85mm is a completely different lens than the 35mm. The 85mm should not be in the topic to replace a 35mm.

May I suggest you go back and re-read or should I say read the OP.


Canon 7D/350D, Σ17-50/2.8 OS, 18-55IS, 24-105/4 L IS, Σ30/1.4 EX, 50/1.8, C50/1.4, 55-250IS, 60/2.8, 70-200/4 L IS, 85/1.8, 100/2.8 IS L, 135/2 L 580EX II, 430EX II * 2, 270EX II.

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Sep 14, 2017 08:31 |  #10

Thank you all very much. I just made a decision and went with my original plan - I ordered a 135L. I can't justify a 35L at this point because I'm not at all unhappy with what I've already got.

Thanks so much for giving me some perspective. No need to spend money just to do it.

The only thing I'm kicking myself for now is that I just now ordered the lens, but I'm going back up north camping tomorrow morning. Lol, derp. Shoulda done it sooner!

Cheers.


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Sep 14, 2017 08:38 |  #11

Great choice!


Getting better at this - Fuji Xt-2 - Fuji X-Pro2 - 18-55 - 35 f2 WR - 50-140 - 6D - 135L - 70-200 f4L IS - 600EX-RT x2 - ST-E3-RT - flickr (external link) - www.scottaticephoto.co​m (external link)

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Sep 14, 2017 08:49 |  #12

lucky7 wrote in post #18451987 (external link)
The only thing I'm kicking myself for now is that I just now ordered the lens, but I'm going back up north camping tomorrow morning. Lol, derp. Shoulda done it sooner!

this is the story of my life ... day late and a dollar short .... every time :)


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Sep 14, 2017 09:01 |  #13

Now you will want the 85 to fill the gap :)...

Enjoy your new toy...


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Sep 14, 2017 09:46 |  #14

I have been thinking about a 35L (ver 1) but it sounds like I'm reading here that the 35L II is produces significantly better images? Is the II really worth twice as much?




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Sep 18, 2017 10:50 |  #15

So far, so good.

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