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Sep 13, 2017 09:10 |  #181

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Now that is priceless.

'Common sense statement'......of course.....I should have known. The features assure better pictures. Yes....yes....of course. Man, your an advertiser's dream.

In truth, it is a non-sense statement.

Better focusing system > more pictures in focus > better pictures.
Anti flicker > less pictures with bad color casts > better pictures.

It's pretty much common sense unless you just want to make arguments justifying your choice in bodies.


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Sep 13, 2017 09:29 |  #182

FEChariot wrote in post #18451172 (external link)
Better focusing system > more pictures in focus > better pictures.
Anti flicker > less pictures with bad color casts > better pictures.

It's pretty much common sense unless you just want to make arguments justifying your choice in bodies.

"IQ" makes me think of the maximum potential with sensor and electronics doing a specific imaging task; not the success rate of nailing light cycling, exposure, or focus. Anyone who includes these things when talking about "camera IQ" is just muddying the waters, IMO. Any system can fall below its potential in creating an image, but it can never be better than its "IQ".




  
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Sep 13, 2017 10:11 |  #183

Disagree...Anything that allows the photographer to take better quality pictures (known as IQ!) is a plus. That includes all new and improved camera features which obviously contribute to IQ. Don't understand why this is so difficult to comprehend...-?


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Sep 13, 2017 11:43 |  #184

fordmondeo wrote in post #18450947 (external link)
I see what you mean.

I seem to remember my 6D being marginally better than that.
Have you tried the Canon DPP noise reduction? it might help.

Help what?


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Sep 13, 2017 11:47 |  #185

FEChariot wrote in post #18451172 (external link)
Better focusing system > more pictures in focus > better pictures.
Anti flicker > less pictures with bad color casts > better pictures.

It's pretty much common sense unless you just want to make arguments justifying your choice in bodies.

I don't have trouble focusing on whatever I choose to and I don't have trouble with color cast.

If these things help you take better pictures then good on you. Whatever works for you.


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Sep 13, 2017 11:49 |  #186

SixDeeFan wrote in post #18451209 (external link)
Disagree...Anything that allows the photographer to take better quality pictures (known as IQ!) is a plus. That includes all new and improved camera features which obviously contribute to IQ. Don't understand why this is so difficult to comprehend...-?

'........all new and improved...'

That's cute. :-)


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Sep 13, 2017 11:53 |  #187

SixDeeFan wrote in post #18451209 (external link)
Disagree...Anything that allows the photographer to take better quality pictures (known as IQ!) is a plus. That includes all new and improved camera features which obviously contribute to IQ. Don't understand why this is so difficult to comprehend...-?

So you think that a flippy screen and better AF system will improve IQ? For real?


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Sep 13, 2017 11:56 |  #188

Sometimes, getting new camera gear motivates you to get out and take more photographs... that in itself could make you a better photographer... if you learn as you go.

As I said before, I've very glad people are upgrading to the 6D 2.... I picked up a very lightly used 6D for a decent price. I'm content. ;)


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Sep 13, 2017 11:59 |  #189

John Sheehy wrote in post #18451179 (external link)
"IQ" makes me think of the maximum potential with sensor and electronics doing a specific imaging task; not the success rate of nailing light cycling, exposure, or focus. Anyone who includes these things when talking about "camera IQ" is just muddying the waters, IMO. Any system can fall below its potential in creating an image, but it can never be better than its "IQ".

I agree with this with one exception,

John Sheehy wrote in post #18451179 (external link)
Any system can fall below its potential in creating an image, but it can never be better than its "IQ" without significant post processing.

There are techniques that can be used to improve the dynamic range of an image making a poor camera the equal to the best. There are techniques that can be employed such as median blending of an image stack which will render a near noiseless image, but all require significant post processing time and skills and do not represent the quality of the hardware. I want to know what the hardware is capable without trickery. That will tell me how much post processing effort I will have to allot after the image is taken.


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Sep 13, 2017 12:02 |  #190

saea501 wrote in post #18451282 (external link)
Help what?

Well, I thought DPP noise reduction might have been a clue.
Personally I didn't think the noise in your tiny image was that bad.


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Sep 13, 2017 13:38 as a reply to  @ fordmondeo's post |  #191

The point of the entire conversation went right over your head. :rolleyes:

Moving right along.........


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Sep 13, 2017 14:32 |  #192

saea501 wrote in post #18451370 (external link)
The point of the entire conversation went right over your head. :rolleyes:

Moving right along.........

One can only hope...


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Sep 13, 2017 14:52 |  #193

Levina de Ruijter wrote in post #18451299 (external link)
So you think that a flippy screen and better AF system will improve IQ? For real?

Really? Naw..just helps my sore back and elevates eye fatigue resulting in more keepers. Ultimately, isn't that the goal?

Obviously depends on how one defines Image Quality.


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Sep 13, 2017 15:06 as a reply to  @ SixDeeFan's post |  #194

I'll always be around for you, buddy. :-)


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Sep 13, 2017 15:12 |  #195

saea501 wrote in post #18451290 (external link)
I don't have trouble focusing on whatever I choose to and I don't have trouble with color cast.

If these things help you take better pictures then good on you. Whatever works for you.

Well different people have different requirements in a body, and I find it hard to believe that you are obtaining a 100% hit rate on the BIF type shots in your gallery especially while using a 6D.


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