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Looking for some input on body upgrade

 
micco
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Sep 13, 2017 14:40 |  #1

Hi All,

I'm looking to (again) upgrade my body from my aging XSi.
my main lens is the 15-85 USM, and a 50 1.8.

My biggest gripe is the low light shooting and would like to take the odd video from time to time.

Also I'm not married to canon, some friends are happy to move to Sony mirrorless.
I have a limited budget, so I'd like to stick to a crop body and not afraid of used gear (as long as its looked after :) )

Any suggestions or direction on considerations would be appreciated.

Cheers!




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Sep 14, 2017 04:25 |  #2

micco wrote in post #18451412 (external link)
Hi All,

I'm looking to (again) upgrade my body from my aging XSi.
my main lens is the 15-85 USM, and a 50 1.8.

My biggest gripe is the low light shooting and would like to take the odd video from time to time.

Also I'm not married to canon, some friends are happy to move to Sony mirrorless.
I have a limited budget, so I'd like to stick to a crop body and not afraid of used gear (as long as its looked after :) )

Any suggestions or direction on considerations would be appreciated.

Cheers!


Not sure what you shoot but the 80D is a good offering. You get Micro adjust, dual pixel autofocus for video, good high iso performance, makeshift great body for a casual sports shooter and you have compatible glass.

You can always consider an EOS M5 or M6 and use a lens adapter for your current glass. Mirrorless body so focus issues shouldn't really exist. Do more digging an research....


5Dmkiv |5Dmkiii | 80D | 24LmkII | 35mm f/2 IS | 85 mkII L | 100L | EF-S 10-22 | 16-35L mkII | 24-70 f/2.8L mkii| 70-200 f/2.8 ISL mkII| 600EX-RT x2 | 580 EX II x2 | Einstein's
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micco
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Sep 14, 2017 07:51 as a reply to AlanU's post |  #3

thanks for the response.
I actually msg'd someone here selling an 80D, but sadly was too late to the game.
I found a 70D with the 18-135 STM lens locally for 800$ CAD - but would have rather invested in the 80.

from my mirrorless research, Sony seems to take the cake, at least at the a6300 area.




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Sep 14, 2017 07:53 |  #4

If budget matters, the is a lot of bang for your buck in a used 60D or 7D. $350-400, usually.


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Sep 14, 2017 07:58 |  #5

Two things that would help others make suggestions would be your location (profile says USA/Chicago) but you mention price of something in Canadian $ and exactly what price range you had in mind. Refurbs from Canon for instance, not that they are necessarily a great deal, are only available to residents of the USA.




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Sep 14, 2017 08:09 |  #6

micco wrote in post #18451412 (external link)
Hi All,

I'm looking to (again) upgrade my body from my aging XSi.
my main lens is the 15-85 USM, and a 50 1.8.

My biggest gripe is the low light shooting and would like to take the odd video from time to time.

Also I'm not married to canon, some friends are happy to move to Sony mirrorless.
I have a limited budget, so I'd like to stick to a crop body and not afraid of used gear (as long as its looked after :) )

Any suggestions or direction on considerations would be appreciated.

Cheers!

A 7D era camera might be a good upgrade, but it won't be significant enough, I fear. Going to the new sensor is going to do much more for low light low ISO shooting. The 80D or 200D are the only two bodies with this sensor at this time, perhaps the 2 new Rebels too, but I am unsure (77D and T7i). You can research for that.

These cameras will be a more significant upgrade for you and future-proof you for several years. DPAF on these bodies will be immensely helpful for video shooting too. If you don't mind a smaller body than the XSi, the 200D might be a great option.


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Sep 14, 2017 10:14 |  #7

Skip the 7d, 70d.

80d is one of the best canon crop offerings in iq. You will NOT have buyers remorse for a while!!


5Dmkiv |5Dmkiii | 80D | 24LmkII | 35mm f/2 IS | 85 mkII L | 100L | EF-S 10-22 | 16-35L mkII | 24-70 f/2.8L mkii| 70-200 f/2.8 ISL mkII| 600EX-RT x2 | 580 EX II x2 | Einstein's
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Sep 14, 2017 10:39 |  #8

AlanU wrote in post #18452082 (external link)
Skip the 7d, 70d.

80d is one of the best canon crop offerings in iq. You will NOT have buyers remorse for a while!!

If you know someone in the States, or are near the border, the 80D with the 18-55 STM is available for $829 refurbished. See https://shop.usa.canon​.com ...-6-is-stm-kit-refurbished (external link)




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Sep 14, 2017 10:52 as a reply to John from PA's post |  #9

That's a killer deal considering that body alone in Canada brand new is $1500 CDN .

Goes to show how cheap cameras are in the United States !!!!

My 5D Mark four in Canada cost about five grand after taxes. Heck of a lot more expensive than what Americans would pay for the same exact camera !!!!!!


5Dmkiv |5Dmkiii | 80D | 24LmkII | 35mm f/2 IS | 85 mkII L | 100L | EF-S 10-22 | 16-35L mkII | 24-70 f/2.8L mkii| 70-200 f/2.8 ISL mkII| 600EX-RT x2 | 580 EX II x2 | Einstein's
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Sep 14, 2017 10:56 |  #10

AlanU wrote in post #18452113 (external link)
That's a killer deal considering that body alone in Canada brand new is $1500 CDN .

Goes to show how cheap cameras are in the United States !!!!

My 5D Mark four in Canada cost about five grand after taxes. Heck of a lot more expensive than what Americans would pay for the same exact camera !!!!!!

Keep in mind that is a refurbished deal through Canon. That is not the US street price. The US B&H street price for a new 80D body only is $1340 CAD in the US. You might get a camera with 100 clicks, OR 19K clicks, OR more... I have had the first 2 cases happen personally.


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Sep 14, 2017 10:58 as a reply to TeamSpeed's post |  #11

Americans are fortunate to have Canon USA. No such thing as refurbished Canon cameras for Canadians.

The official Canon Canada website is an absolute ripoff as well .


5Dmkiv |5Dmkiii | 80D | 24LmkII | 35mm f/2 IS | 85 mkII L | 100L | EF-S 10-22 | 16-35L mkII | 24-70 f/2.8L mkii| 70-200 f/2.8 ISL mkII| 600EX-RT x2 | 580 EX II x2 | Einstein's
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Sep 14, 2017 14:24 as a reply to John from PA's post |  #12

Thanks for all the feedback and suggestions.

That's a good deal.
Yes sorry I'm in Canada and about an hour from the boarder.

If I recall the refurb order requires a US credit card , which I don't have. However, I do have a postal service option in the US.

Ideally I'd like to get best bang for my dollar, staying within reason, ~1000$ CAD.

The 80d seems to be the camera I'm leaning to. I think the 18-135 stm lens might be a good addition.
Is it worth the extra vs the 18-55 stm and already having the 15-85?

** edit: just confirmed with canon us, I cannot place a purchase as a US based cc/account is required....lol I should of looked around when I was in Philly last week




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Sep 14, 2017 14:31 |  #13

I have owned nearly every Canon from the 350D to the 5DIII/1DIV.
I currently own the 80D and LOVE it for everything I do (no paid work!). It keeps up with my toddlers without any hassle. Easily does airshows and sports and BIF, etc. The low light may not be as good as the 6D, but for everything else it takes the cake. Period. (FOR ME).
I would easily recommend this for anyone who 1) Wants a Canon 2)APS-C
You will NOT be disappointed. Period


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Sep 14, 2017 15:54 as a reply to TeamSpeed's post |  #14

I've never heard of one with more than a couple hundred clicks max, have you? Both refurb bodied I have purchased have had less than 50.


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Sep 14, 2017 16:25 |  #15

Scrumhalf wrote in post #18452391 (external link)
I've never heard of one with more than a couple hundred clicks max, have you? Both refurb bodied I have purchased have had less than 50.

One of the refurbs I bought direct from Canon 1800+ clicks on it. It looked new, and I never had a problem with it. 60D, perhaps?


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