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Sep 15, 2017 07:55 |  #4666

Scatterbrained wrote in post #18452759 (external link)
Exactly. This is why I've stopped using Lr with my Sony, as I only really use my Colorchecker for studio shoots, and I'm tired of fighting the colors I get from LR. It's not a WB issue, it's a color issue. I can spend time playing with RGB curves and camera profiles trying to get the colors where they should be in my landscape shots, or I can just open the images in C1 and be done. :)

I've spent the last 10 months or so trying to figure out Sony colors when using LR. I was VERY frustrated at first. On the whole I think I'm satisfied these days but definitely do a fair amount of slider tweaking. I downloaded C1 at one point but didn't have the patience to slog through the learning process. I think I'll give it another go this winter when I've got more time on my hands.


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Sep 15, 2017 07:58 |  #4667

Vin, You should do a BTS for your YouTube channel.


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Sep 15, 2017 08:12 |  #4668

:-)

Vinz, I use black foam core board like these from Michaels for my background when shooting smaller objects. I also have gray. The back side of these are white.

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Sep 15, 2017 09:03 |  #4669

Thanks Gene. I will try that. I also need a black foam core anyway for flagging light on my cinematic portrait.


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Sep 15, 2017 09:54 |  #4670

xpfloyd wrote in post #18452760 (external link)
David, I've never really managed to get my head around this so excuse the daft question. With colourchecker passport, once you set up a colour profile for your body is that it? I.e colours will then always be correct? Or do you have to repeat the process each time you shoot?

As Scatterbrained said, you're technically supposed to create a new prodile in varying lighting conditions, but I typically just create one for natural light (once) and go with that.

I've tried creating profiles in differrent light conditions, but haven't seen nearly as much of an impressive difference in that as I have seen in having a profile vs having not having a profile. But, that could be because I'm a 90% natural light photographer (10% city lights). And city lights are an absolute pain to work with because we seem to be in an ongoing transition from the old sodium vapor to LED. So for city lights shooting I just worry about getting my WB right.


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Sep 15, 2017 10:11 |  #4671

David Arbogast wrote in post #18452918 (external link)
As Scatterbrained said, you're technically supposed to create a new prodile in varying lighting conditions, but I typically just create one for natural light (once) and go with that. I've tried creating profiles in differrent light conditions, but haven't seen nearly as much difference in that as I have from having zero profile vs having a do-it-once profile. But, that could be because I'm a 90% natural light photographer (10% city lights).

So, if I borrow my buddy's color checker, and say I shoot it for most common places I shoot with, I'm probably good to go and can return the item?

There's only a handful of places that I shoot a lot, like my home, my mom's, ect. Sometimes I have to deal with mixed lighting, and that by far is the biggest hassle, but I'm sort of ok with figuring it out on my own. I'm also open to learning new stuff.


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Sep 15, 2017 10:35 |  #4672

Charlie wrote in post #18452929 (external link)
So, if I borrow my buddy's color checker, and say I shoot it for most common places I shoot with, I'm probably good to go and can return the item?

There's only a handful of places that I shoot a lot, like my home, my mom's, ect. Sometimes I have to deal with mixed lighting, and that by far is the biggest hassle, but I'm sort of ok with figuring it out on my own. I'm also open to learning new stuff.

It could be worth a try. Personally I'm not so concerned with perfect accuracy as I am with getting a good general color interpretation (how blues, reds, magentas, greens, purples, etc. are depicted).

When I'm using C1, I don't bother with the passport (maybe I should try it ;)). In contrast to LR, the built-in Sony profile in C1 seems to render good looking color pleasing to my eye. But, in LR I just don't like the colors from the generic profiles as compared to a custom profile via the colorchecker passport: some hues look completely different. My first comment on this subject was contingent on "if you use Lightroom."

Now, if someone is doing a multi-camera project with Sony and Canon or Nikon cameras, and the color from each camera needs to be consistent, then that's when it's especially critical to create a project-specific colorchecker passport profile for each camera.


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Sep 15, 2017 10:58 |  #4673

Having some struggles selling my Batis 85mm...I bet it would be a lot easier sell if Sony hadn't released their excellent and well-priced FE 85mm 1.8!


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Sep 15, 2017 11:14 |  #4674

My little drama group :-P


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Sep 15, 2017 12:19 |  #4675

David Arbogast wrote in post #18452950 (external link)
Having some struggles selling my Batis 85mm...I bet it would be a lot easier sell if Sony hadn't released their excellent and well-priced FE 85mm 1.8!

I tried the B85 a while back. Wasn't blown away (for the price) and coming in at 127mm on my APS-c I decided it wouldn't get used regularly. I sold it....thankfully with only a loss equivalent to a rental fee. The FE85 came out like a month later! ;-)a


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Sep 15, 2017 12:39 |  #4676

invi2003 wrote in post #18452962 (external link)
My little drama group :-P

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Sep 15, 2017 13:04 |  #4677

idsurfer wrote in post #18452998 (external link)
I tried the B85 a while back. Wasn't blown away (for the price) and coming in at 127mm on my APS-c I decided it wouldn't get used regularly. I sold it....thankfully with only a loss equivalent to a rental fee. The FE85 came out like a month later! ;-)a

the FE 85 makes it seriously hard to use any other 85

Very good IQ and nicely sized lens... oh yeah, the cost :-)


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Sep 15, 2017 13:30 |  #4678

I love my FE 85/1.8 :)


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Sep 15, 2017 13:45 |  #4679

Charlie wrote in post #18453032 (external link)
the FE 85 makes it seriously hard to use any other 85

Very good IQ and nicely sized lens... oh yeah, the cost :-)

I rented the B85 and i loved it as well but at the end I decided to go with the FE85


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Sep 15, 2017 14:18 |  #4680

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