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thc1979
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Sep 15, 2017 05:19 |  #1

Seen this on eBay - looks quite good value : http://r.ebay.com/7DIY​iH (external link) . However I have lots of speedlites would I better to utilise them with some softboxes/reflectors and a wireless trigger system etc. ? It's only for some quality family photos and I think if I bought the Godox they might sit in a cupboard most of the time!


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Sep 15, 2017 05:34 |  #2

If you already have speedlites, just use those. You can gang them up and put 2 speedlites into a larger modifier for more output (+1 stop). The benefit to a monolight/strobe is the angle at which the light is coming out, it will spread more and can cover a larger modifier better. But, again, you can do fine with speedlites, gang them up at 24mm zoom and get a little more spread and +1 stop of output basically.

You could just look at some larger modifiers, like a 60" reflective umbrella (I've used this with 2 speedlites and lit 3 adults full body outdoor no problem on an overcast day), or 47~48" brolly boxes (again, reflective). I prefer bounce surfaces with speedlites to handle hot spots. If you use an umbrella that has a reflective surface as a bounce surface you can get a big spread of light which is good. And if it has a diffuser, it will be fairly soft and nice if it's fairly close to the subjects.

Here's an example of an inexpensive reflective bounce surface with diffuser (brolly box):
https://www.amazon.com ...raphy-SUPON/dp/B017R3DRVQ (external link)

Here's an inexpensive 60" umbrella that is black backed and reflective and you can bounce off it (and you can get a "sock" for it to have a diffuser if you felt the need):
https://www.amazon.com ...le-Umbrella/dp/B0000AE6EH (external link)

A dual flash mount like this will use those modifiers (umbrella shaft mount) (inexpensive) and provide the extra light by using more than one speedlite:
https://www.amazon.com ...&keywords=dual+flas​h+shoe (external link)

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Sep 15, 2017 22:43 |  #3

There are a few advantages to monolights.
1. They plug into the wall. No batteries.
2. They have much more power, which gives you more options for modifiers.
3. They have more power and they plug in, which means they recycle faster (are ready to shoot much more quickly).
4. They have modeling lights, which give you an idea of what the image will look like. If you have the room lights off (mostly dark room), they will generally give a very good idea of what the light will look like. This is a huge advantage when learning. One inch change in the light position or model's nose position can have a significant effect.

That isn't to say you should get them or prefer them over what you have. And if you are not going to use them much, that argues against them.

But I will say that my wife noticed a significant improvement occurred in all of my photography, including natural light photography, soon after I got monolights. Why? I got much better at seeing the light. :).

So if you do get them and use them, they might make a difference for you.


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Sep 16, 2017 09:42 |  #4

MalVeauX wrote in post #18452787 (external link)
If you already have speedlites, just use those. You can gang them up and put 2 speedlites into a larger modifier for more output (+1 stop). The benefit to a monolight/strobe is the angle at which the light is coming out, it will spread more and can cover a larger modifier better. But, again, you can do fine with speedlites, gang them up at 24mm zoom and get a little more spread and +1 stop of output basically.

You could just look at some larger modifiers, like a 60" reflective umbrella (I've used this with 2 speedlites and lit 3 adults full body outdoor no problem on an overcast day), or 47~48" brolly boxes (again, reflective). I prefer bounce surfaces with speedlites to handle hot spots. If you use an umbrella that has a reflective surface as a bounce surface you can get a big spread of light which is good. And if it has a diffuser, it will be fairly soft and nice if it's fairly close to the subjects.

Here's an example of an inexpensive reflective bounce surface with diffuser (brolly box):
https://www.amazon.com ...raphy-SUPON/dp/B017R3DRVQ (external link)

Here's an inexpensive 60" umbrella that is black backed and reflective and you can bounce off it (and you can get a "sock" for it to have a diffuser if you felt the need):
https://www.amazon.com ...le-Umbrella/dp/B0000AE6EH (external link)

A dual flash mount like this will use those modifiers (umbrella shaft mount) (inexpensive) and provide the extra light by using more than one speedlite:
https://www.amazon.com ...&keywords=dual+flas​h+shoe (external link)

Very best,

Malveaux's advice above is seconded. I have been using my Canon 600 's more and more. While I have an older set of Profoto Compact 300 's, I have in invested in the Westcott line of modifiers Malveaux's posted above.
Both Speedlites and Monolights have their advantages. One nice thing about using Speedlites is eliminating a tripping hazard, the AC line. Just one less thing to worry about whether insured or not.


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