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Sep 22, 2017 07:09 |  #1921

using the same site again and adding the missing parts and a better mobo would give you the total amount of 2200usd
with the extra 400 bucks one could get a better cpu with more cores and an even better mobo

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Sep 22, 2017 07:23 |  #1922

FuturamaJSP wrote in post #18457734 (external link)
using the same site again and adding the missing parts and a better mobo would give you the total amount of 2200usd
with the extra 400 bucks one could get a better cpu with more cores and an even better mobo

https://pcpartpicker.c​om/list/QTsL3F (external link)

I don't want to beat a dead horse here, but you can't add all of that and spend 600 more dollars. The additional 960 is 450ish by itself. Over 300 for the additional wd drives. Another 100 or so for the 120gb ssd. Another 100 for the motherboard I actually bought. The case another 80ish. The memory (faster) another 40 ish. There are numerous things that fall short on the build you quoted. No blue ray, keyboard etc.

I'm not saying you couldn't find it cheaper at all perhaps you could. Not that much however, and the difference isn't worth my time since I have a long standing business relationship with newegg.


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Sep 22, 2017 08:50 |  #1923

jcothron wrote in post #18457739 (external link)
The additional 960 is 450ish by itself. Over 300 for the additional wd drives. Another 100 or so for the 120gb ssd.


Samsung MZ-V6P512BW 960 PRO M.2-2280 SSD 512GB 512MB $0.582 $298.00
Samsung MZ-V6E500 960 EVO M.2-2280 SSD 500GB 512MB $0.468 $233.88
Western Digital WD2005FBYZ Gold 3.5" 7200RPM 2TB 128MB $0.057 $114.99

its all on that list but whatever
I was just curious about how much your build would actually cost if purchased from the cheapest vendors


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Sep 22, 2017 09:03 |  #1924

FuturamaJSP wrote in post #18457778 (external link)
Samsung MZ-V6P512BW 960 PRO M.2-2280 SSD 512GB 512MB $0.582 $298.00
Samsung MZ-V6E500 960 EVO M.2-2280 SSD 500GB 512MB $0.468 $233.88
Western Digital WD2005FBYZ Gold 3.5" 7200RPM 2TB 128MB $0.057 $114.99

its all on that list but whatever
I was just curious about how much your build would actually cost if purchased from the cheapest vendors

yes I noticed that I didn't look at your quote correctly. It was a 1 tb 960 vs. the 2 550gb that I actually used. Some of the prices you quoted do look a little lower, although not not and day different. I also had 2 4TB WD Mybooks on that order that I wasn't thinking about earlier.

Looks to me without putting a lot of work into it, that if everything were apples to apples your quote would end up about $100 cheaper than the build I did through NewEgg. Not insignificant but overall pretty close.


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Sep 22, 2017 09:13 as a reply to jcothron's post |  #1925

Well I was actually surprised when you said that you paid 2.6k for a computer with a rather mainstream i7 and gtx 1060 forgetting that high quality HDDs and ssds are still very expensive.


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Sep 22, 2017 11:28 |  #1926

FuturamaJSP wrote in post #18457641 (external link)
I am actually waiting for the release of the Coffee Lake i7 8700K with 6cores and 12threads.
Since it will be the direct successor to the current 7700K it will also be a bit cheaper than the current Skylake Extreme cpus while also requiring much less expensive motherboards

I am doing the same. I had all my components in boxes ready to build the PC last weekend but have since returned the Mobo and i7-7700k. Now I incessantly google "coffee lake" trying to get more info and a pre-order opportunity :-) Hoping for Oct. 5th, but it is what it is.


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Sep 26, 2017 08:46 |  #1927

spooky action wrote in post #18457876 (external link)
I am doing the same. I had all my components in boxes ready to build the PC last weekend but have since returned the Mobo and i7-7700k. Now I incessantly google "coffee lake" trying to get more info and a pre-order opportunity :-) Hoping for Oct. 5th, but it is what it is.

according to this:
http://www.guru3d.com ...w-leaks-onto-the-web.html (external link)

I guess it really depends on what you mainly use your pc for.
For gaming the new Coffee Lake is clearly the better choice while being very close to the 7800x for content creation


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Sep 28, 2017 20:36 |  #1928

FuturamaJSP wrote in post #18460720 (external link)
according to this:
http://www.guru3d.com ...w-leaks-onto-the-web.html (external link)

I guess it really depends on what you mainly use your pc for.
For gaming the new Coffee Lake is clearly the better choice while being very close to the 7800x for content creation

I’ve read that one and the dozen or so other articles with leaks of benchtests, mobo compatability, etc.

I’m not a gamer, but figure the 6 core may future proof a bit if LR is reconfigured to utilize more cores. It’s definitely overkill for my uses at the moment, but that always changes and I don’t want to be two years down the road annoyed that I didn’t get it just to save a few hundred bucks, especially when I was building from scratch with nice components across the board to begin with.


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Sep 29, 2017 11:35 |  #1929

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Nov 01, 2017 14:03 |  #1930

I am considering an upgrade but everything seems to be in flux right now. between Ryzen and new Intel chips lots of choices and confusion.
My system I built back 8 or 10 years ago is below. Family computer, but that's changing as kids get laptops etc, but still is main computer for daily web/bill pay/light photo editing use. For most of that workload it's adequate, but we are starting to notice some really slow load times and some responsiveness that just gets annoying sometimes. 2-3x a month I sit down and edit 5-600 pics and a few HD videos. I usually copy from SD card via USB3 reader to HD. Then I have LR import into catalog and do initial previews , (walk away while this happens) then I will edit pics and then export to HardDrive in finished form and export zenfolio (walk away for a LONG time). This is manageable and 75% of the time I don't have lagging brush strokes or delays that make me have to close LR or reboot the computer. but about 25% of the time I do. HD video is painful and can take hours to encode unless I do very short videos less than 5 mins in length. I sit at about 40% RAM usage before I even start editing. I have closed anything not essential and I optimize and do routine maintenance on this system ( the only reason I think it's still running). CPU utilization is single digit unless I'm really working it, so CPU really isn't my limiting factor here. I know I could switch to an SSD for some performance gains but I wonder if that's not just a band-aid at this point. My multiple HD are due to the fact that I try and keep system drive defragged and clean and I also keep pics and downloaded files etc on separate drive plus I do routine system images and backups that are stored on several of the additional drives.

CPU: AMD Phenom II X4 955
GPU: Nvidia GeForce GTS 250 running dual monitors
HDD: WD Blue 1TB (2012)
HDD: WD Blue 1TB (2012)
HDD: WD WD10EACS-00ZJB0 1TB -
HDD: WD Green 2TB (2011) -
HDD: WD WD1001FALS-00U9B0 1TB
RAM: Corsair Vengance LP DDR3 4x4GB -9/9/9/24/34 DRAM FQ 666.7MHz
MBD: MSI 790FX-GD70(MS-7577)
Win 7 64bit
http://www.userbenchma​rk.com/UserRun/5621886 (external link)

using both LR 5/PS CS5 and Creative Cloud versions

When I built this system many years ago I had hoped to get 8-10 yrs out of it, which I have. and honestly could probably get a few more. But thinking I'll take advantage of holiday sales this year and do a similar build that's a bit overkill for now but will allow me to keep a stable system for another decade or so.I like the Ryzen 7 chips and they are positioned about where my Phenom CPU was at the time I built this system. I know LR/PS currently don't utilize all cores so CPU-wise I may not see a huge jump over a lesser albeit newer CPU but in video editing I should. Plus my memory is slow for today's specs. But if I'm not mistaken the Ryzen architecture penalizes RAM over 2 chips. meaning you can't run full 3200 MHz if you have 4 sticks. their spec sheet shows a max of 2133 at 4 sticks. that's blazing compared to what I have but well below spec of 3200 that's possible with just 2 sticks. I was considering 32 or 64GB, again just to future-proof, 32GB can be had with 2 sticks but looking for some advice on benefits of going to 64GB, shooting an 80D in RAW and processing HD video.

looking at
ASRock X370 TAICHI
Ryzen 7 1800X
32-64GB RAM
GTX 1070 variant
SSD M2 for boot and possibly a 2nd for apps and photos.

not interested in overclocking but want best stability and function out of the box.
So Ryzen vs newer Intel? depending on who you read/watch both chips are amazing and the other one completely sucks. so I figure I can't go wrong either way.

that's my long question

thoughts?

I also do a decent amount of 3D printing and to do that I use Fusion 360 and a few other 3D rendering programs. Again right now as long as the project is small I have very minimal slowdowns.


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Nov 02, 2017 11:31 |  #1931

Just replaced my stock HP Pavilion 810-330qe with a custom build. I was lucky enough to get one of the first I7-8700K processors. My specs:

Motherboard: ASUS Z370-E
Processor: Intel I7-8700K
RAM: Corsair Vengeance LED 32GB 4 x 16GB DDR4-3200 (64GB total)
SSDs: 3 x 1TB Samsung EVO 840 (for data) and one 250GB Samsung EVO 850 for Operating System
Video: ASUS STRIX GeForce 1070
Optical Drives: HP CH30L and an LG WH16NS40 (BluRay Burner)
Monitors: HP 27xi (x2), both on HDMI
Power Supply: EVGA 750W G2 Gold
Operating System: Windows 10 Pro (64 Bit)
Case: Corsair 230T
Backups: IO Safe G3 3TB and IO Safe G3 6 TB (USB 3.0)
UserBenchmark: http://www.userbenchma​rk.com/UserRun/5635475 (external link)

It's a screamer, now. I run Photoshop CC, Lightroom Classic and Adobe Premiere Pro. No gaming (no time!)

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Nov 02, 2017 18:35 as a reply to Hannah'sDad's post |  #1932

Hannah'sDad,,,don't know what that system would cost you where you are,,,where i am in Canada it would be about $ 87,491.58 lol I'm impressed


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Nov 03, 2017 11:34 |  #1933

HannahsDad wrote in post #18486914 (external link)
Just replaced my stock HP Pavilion 810-330qe with a custom build. I was lucky enough to get one of the first I7-8700K processors. My specs:

Motherboard: ASUS Z370-E
Processor: Intel I7-8700K
RAM: Corsair Vengeance LED 32GB 4 x 16GB DDR4-3200 (64GB total)
SSDs: 3 x 1TB Samsung EVO 840 (for data) and one 250GB Samsung EVO 850 for Operating System
Video: ASUS STRIX GeForce 1070
Monitors: HP 27xi (x2), both on HDMI
Power Supply: EVGA 750W G2 Gold
Operating System: Windows 10 Pro (64 Bit)
Case: Corsair 230T
Backups: IO Safe G3 3TB and IO Safe G3 6 TB (USB 3.0)
UserBenchmark: http://www.userbenchma​rk.com/UserRun/5635475 (external link)

It's a screamer, now. I run Photoshop CC, Lightroom Classic and Adobe Premiere Pro. No gaming (no time!)

Scott

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Nov 03, 2017 16:17 |  #1934

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Whoa, SkyNet is jealous :)

don't get jealous.

upgrade! :P


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Nov 03, 2017 18:25 |  #1935

For some more gains with Adobe software, consider a Quadro card over a GeForce: video editing programs utilize more OpenGL features (Quadro cards fully implement OpenGL features, while GeForce are more DirectX gaming cards). And if you have a monitor with wider gamut support, PS can be run with 10bpc color mode with a Quadro card.


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