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Sep 28, 2017 16:34 |  #1

I will be attempting to photograph the Zion Subway with a medium format camera - facing down river. I will need to rent an UWA for this one.

To comfortably get the entire left "rib" (the curve part) and the entire right pool of the Subway, what focal length should I have prepared (in 35mm terms)? I have attached an approximate photo of what I'm referring to.

*Photo was taken from the Zion National Park site - https://www.nps.gov ...anyourvisit/thesubw​ay.htm (external link)

Thank you in advance for your helpful comments and suggestions.

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Sep 29, 2017 08:03 |  #2

Do you have any dimensions of what you want to photograpn and distance from your camera setup? That would enable a calculation. Otherwise see http://www.firefallpho​tography.com/5958-2/ (external link) and http://www.nicodebarmo​re.com ...andard_products/zio​n-book (external link) which will take you to the link to purchase a book on Zion photography. The link is referenced in the firefallphotography link but is broken.

Also some good tips at https://www.citrusmilo​.com/zionguide/photogr​aphy.cfm (external link). Just note that there are three pages.




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Sep 29, 2017 15:08 |  #3

That shot taken with Kodak CX7430, which has 34mm as its widest 35mm equivalent FL.


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Sep 30, 2017 14:08 as a reply to John from PA's post |  #4

John from PA

Thank you for the help. I appreciate the research.

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Sep 30, 2017 14:11 as a reply to Wilt's post |  #5

Wilt -

Your knowledge is freakishly awesome. I don't know how you KNEW that but THANK YOU.

Okay then. No need to rent. I can cover 34mm.

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Sep 30, 2017 14:23 |  #6

la_ricecooker wrote in post #18463489 (external link)
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Your knowledge is freakishly awesome. I don't know how you KNEW that but THANK YOU.

Right click the image > Save As > then open in a photo editor and examine the Exif.

By the way, more photos at https://www.nps.gov ...tm?q=zion%20subway&​o=date (external link):D:L:d1

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Sep 30, 2017 15:16 as a reply to John from PA's post |  #7

Yeah. I just fell asleep behind the wheel on that one. I should have remembered that technique.

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Sep 30, 2017 20:36 |  #8

la_ricecooker wrote in post #18462364 (external link)
I will be attempting to photograph the Zion Subway with a medium format camera - facing down river. I will need to rent an UWA for this one.

To comfortably get the entire left "rib" (the curve part) and the entire right pool of the Subway, what focal length should I have prepared (in 35mm terms)? I have attached an approximate photo of what I'm referring to.

*Photo was taken from the Zion National Park site - https://www.nps.gov ...anyourvisit/thesubw​ay.htm (external link)

Thank you in advance for your helpful comments and suggestions.
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I've never shot the Subway, but I've seen countless photos from this location. The photo you link seems very "cramped" compared to other comps I've seen from this location. I really think a FOV wider than 35mm would be beneficial, particularly if you want to include a FG interest, which in my opinion is really what separates the humdrum from the shots that really sing from this location. A quick search of Flickr for Zion and Subway shows a large number of shots. I really tend to like those taken at around 16 mm or so.


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Oct 01, 2017 01:00 as a reply to Bcaps's post |  #9

Bcaps -

Flickr. Talk about insightful suggestions. Wow. That was fricking awesome.

Thank you. I think you just put me over the top on helpful suggestions.

Cheers.

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Oct 01, 2017 10:56 |  #10

la_ricecooker wrote in post #18463759 (external link)
Bcaps -

Flickr. Talk about insightful suggestions. Wow. That was fricking awesome.

Thank you. I think you just put me over the top on helpful suggestions.

Cheers.

Bill

You're welcome. Based on your question you looked like you could use all the help you could get.


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Oct 01, 2017 11:51 |  #11

John from PA wrote in post #18463499 (external link)
Right click the image > Save As > then open in a photo editor and examine the Exif.

But examining the EXIF merely disclosed the fact that the real FL is 5mm...which tells you nothing about the effective FL.
I merely looked up specs on the CX7430 (after EXIF showed that was the camera used for the shot) and discovered the widest '35mm equiv' FL for that camera


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