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Charlie
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Oct 03, 2017 14:33 |  #5251

TRhoads wrote in post #18465343 (external link)
I do not have it on a stand alone SSD, maybe I should...probably in need of a new machine and that idea is daunting...I think my catalog at last check is close to 75K images from the last 10 years...

Thanks!

you can run c1 in conjunction with LR till you figure it out, it's no easy task. Some things are VASTLY different and it's not straight forward, however once you get flowing with it, you may find out that it can do everything you want, just a very different way to achieve the same result.

that said, once you get good at C1, it simply runs circles around LR. No scratch disk setup or anything, just install and go. Best watch some tutorial vids to get you on the right foot.


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Oct 03, 2017 14:36 |  #5252

It’s lightrooms catalog I cant live without


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Oct 03, 2017 14:39 |  #5253

A miracle baby. Born against all odds. :love:

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Oct 03, 2017 14:48 |  #5254

xpfloyd wrote in post #18465364 (external link)
It’s lightrooms caralog I cant live without

There are so many power tools in LR that destroy other apps. As great as C1 is, you can't quickly shift-click a series of brackets and right-click to instantly export them to a Pano, Stacking, or HDR app. Can't even right-click an image to instantly jump it to PS. So, yes, LR can be a bit of a slow-dog in the develop module, but there are tremendous ergonomic and cataloging superiorities that make it easily the best raw-management application for me.

I've enthusiastically tried C1 every single release since version 6 - often making the claim on this forum that it's going to replace LR as my default raw-conversion program. I've tried DXO since version 7. Also tried other things like Photo Ninja. In terms of overall capabilities and making life easier, nothing comes close to Lightroom imo. If I was forced to stop using LR (because Adobe decided to make it unaffordable), then I would use C1. C1 is really excellent in numerous ways, but LR offers way too much for me to switch unless forced to.


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Oct 03, 2017 14:48 |  #5255

xpfloyd wrote in post #18465364 (external link)
It’s lightrooms catalog I cant live without

Eddie, Just curious what this means? What is it specifically that LR catalogs provide that is unique?


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Oct 03, 2017 14:49 |  #5256

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A miracle baby. Born against all odds. :love:

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SO sweet on every level. :)


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Charlie
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Oct 03, 2017 14:50 |  #5257

xpfloyd wrote in post #18465364 (external link)
It’s lightrooms caralog I cant live without

I know that C1 suggests sessions? You can choose the catalog system, that's basically equivalent to LR's catalog. I work with catalogs rather than sessions, it's virtually the same as LR catalog with some minor differences, like the metadata by default doesnt show, however, since the program is highly customizable, you can add it.

I set my import to behave exactly like LR, the options are customizable enough to do it that way, so my C1 catalog looks exactly the same as my LR catalog while I was transitioning over. I'll say that sometimes, I felt like pulling out hair figuring out C1, but once I did, I never forgot and generally, it's heaven. I just process stuff so much faster now, can hone in on subtle skin tone changes easier with the color picker, and the export recipes are pretty genial since I have a somewhat complex folder structure.


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Oct 03, 2017 14:53 |  #5258

Firmware 2.0 Update for SEL1635Z reading the spiel on this seemed to convey it would be fine when this lens is on my A7R2 but got confused when I got to this screen...

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Just seems to apply to the A9. Is that correct please?

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Oct 03, 2017 14:58 |  #5259

MedicineMan4040 wrote in post #18464917 (external link)
Joon, one more question.
How tall are you and what is your weight.
I'm 189 and 6"....wondering if the folding Rad is ok for my size.
I like the ability to out of the box put stuff on front or back.
Also do you have a link to your panniers please.

I'm much smaller at 5'7 and 165. However it will be perfectly fine for your size, as I've even seen a bigger man (6'4 250lbs) on a Mini with no issues whatsoever. The bike is very heavy but sturdy.

Here is the link to the panniers. https://www.amazon.com ...tailpages00?ie=UTF8​&psc=1 (external link)

If you need links to other accessories, just let me know. I can send them your way via PM, as I don't want to slow down my only watched thread. :P

If you do ever decide to buy this bike, please mention my name (Joon Rhee) as referral person. You and I both can receive $50 Amazon gift card each. If you don't want to, no problem at all! Disclaimer: I have absolutely nothing to do with the company. :)


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Charlie
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Oct 03, 2017 14:59 |  #5260

David Arbogast wrote in post #18465373 (external link)
There are so many power tools in LR that destroy other apps. As great as C1 is, you can't quickly shift-click a series of brackets and right-click to instantly export them to a Pano, Stacking, or HDR app. Can't even right-click an image to instantly jump it to PS. So, yes, LR can be a bit of a slow-dog in the develop module, but there are tremendous ergonomic and cataloging superiorities that make it easily the best raw-management application for me.

I've enthusiastically tried C1 every single release since version 6 - often making the claim on this forum that it's going to replace LR as my default raw-conversion program. I've tried DXO since version 7. Also tried other things like Photo Ninja. In terms of overall capabilities and making life easier, nothing comes close to Lightroom imo. If I was forced to stop using LR (because Adobe decided to make it unaffordable), then I would use C1. C1 is really excellent in numerous ways, but LR offers way too much for me to switch unless forced to.

yes, if you use HDR inside of C1, that is a problem, I dont think you can do it.

Round trip to PS, you've got to select, then file edit, and then it wont even get stacked, you've got to do that manually. But it's tricky because you've got File open with -> PS vs File edit with -> PS. Had my head scratching, that's for sure :-P

by far, most of my edits are in the raw processor, and C1 just blazes through files, while LR is just stuck in the mud.

when it comes to round trip PS, LR wins it easily as you've got auto stacking, however, as long as I can round trip back into the catalog, a few extra steps I'm ok with since I dont go PS on a daily basis.

straightening and leveling tools on C1 just totally head and shoulders better than LR, really love those features as I'm not really good with the PS leveling straightening tools.


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Oct 03, 2017 15:10 |  #5261

Is anyone using or has tried DxO FilmPack? It looks pretty cool for black and white. I know that Julia Anna Gospodarou uses it for her fine art b&w. I'm running the trial now along with some of her presets (as starting points) and the application has potential.


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Oct 03, 2017 15:24 |  #5262

shoshone wrote in post #18465374 (external link)
Eddie, Just curious what this means? What is it specifically that LR catalogs provide that is unique?

My entire workflow is based around it. As far as I’m aware no other software has a catalog that’s as functional.


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Oct 03, 2017 15:26 |  #5263

Charlie wrote in post #18465376 (external link)
I know that C1 suggests sessions? You can choose the catalog system, that's basically equivalent to LR's catalog. I work with catalogs rather than sessions, it's virtually the same as LR catalog with some minor differences, like the metadata by default doesnt show, however, since the program is highly customizable, you can add it.

I set my import to behave exactly like LR, the options are customizable enough to do it that way, so my C1 catalog looks exactly the same as my LR catalog while I was transitioning over. I'll say that sometimes, I felt like pulling out hair figuring out C1, but once I did, I never forgot and generally, it's heaven. I just process stuff so much faster now, can hone in on subtle skin tone changes easier with the color picker, and the export recipes are pretty genial since I have a somewhat complex folder structure.

Sounds like things have improved but the last time I tried c1 on an older version the catalog was a nightmare


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Oct 03, 2017 16:57 |  #5264

this was our welcome sign(s) when we crossed into northeast Utah couple weeks ago, biggie size
is over at FM

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Oct 03, 2017 17:32 |  #5265

FINALLY moved on from my 600D that I'd had for years and made the jump to an A7ii & 35mm 1.4 and so far, I'm loving it! (pretty stoked to be bringing it with me to Japan this month as well!)

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Now I just need to save some money for the the 16-35 F4 :-D

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