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Oct 11, 2017 16:01 |  #5461

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Is it possible to use OCF with silent mode on the a7rii? My trigger arrives tomorrow so I can’t check

No. Mechanical shutter only.


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Oct 11, 2017 16:02 |  #5462

If any of you U.K. guys are looking for a mint batis 85 drop me a PM, otherwise it’s going on eBay


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Oct 11, 2017 20:52 |  #5463

Got one more fave from this shoot.

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Oct 11, 2017 20:58 |  #5464

Random thoughts as I edit my second shooter's photos. Canon colors suck!

Not true of course, but I'm spending a lot more time editing because the things I'm used to doing in terms of color correction are different in Canon files, so it requires more thought that I've been used to. Not better or worse, just different. I can get the Canon files to basically match the Sony files though, it just takes a little extra time and effort since its not what I'm used to any more.

My second shooter on Saturday is a Fuji guy, so I'll get a chance to play with Fuji raws soon.


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Oct 11, 2017 20:59 |  #5465

next time you hire me. :)


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Oct 11, 2017 21:16 |  #5466

Vinz, seriously we'll all contribute here to help you buy the young woman a pair of jeans ;)
Haha, kidding again. Just more fantastic portraiture from you.

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Oct 11, 2017 21:32 |  #5467

mystik610 wrote in post #18470786 (external link)
Random thoughts as I edit my second shooter's photos. Canon colors suck!

Not true of course, but I'm spending a lot more time editing because the things I'm used to doing in terms of color correction are different in Canon files, so it requires more thought that I've been used to. Not better or worse, just different. I can get the Canon files to basically match the Sony files though, it just takes a little extra time and effort since its not what I'm used to any more.

My second shooter on Saturday is a Fuji guy, so I'll get a chance to play with Fuji raws soon.


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next time you hire me. :)

or me...I would fly out for it...LOL...

my only experience with Fuji files was after Petit this week, a friend shoots with one, and I wanted to see what his files looked liked SOOC...his were very flat.


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Oct 11, 2017 21:38 |  #5468

Flat colors?
You guys know I'm limited in my faculties in all of this but doesn't raw no matter the brand let you
do what ever you want in color?
I say that and think back to my old Minolta 400 APO and the color it gave to the image.

On Fuji I've always found their cameras so very interesting but never took a plunge. Poof just
said 'what? another camera' when she discovered the RX10iv is in the works, so I just think at
my age I'll just stick with Sony and Oly now.


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Oct 11, 2017 22:33 |  #5469

What is your thought/s about this?

the image on the left is what the Lumu Power Light Meter see, it looks like well exposed even when looking at the histogram.

the image on the right is what the built-in camera's light meter see, on 0. It looks like underexpose even base on the histogram.

BUT... to my eyes when looking at it in real life, the image on the right is accurate.

Which one do you like or follow and why?

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Oct 11, 2017 22:42 |  #5470

vinmunoz wrote in post #18470845 (external link)
What is your thought/s about this?

the image on the left is what the Lumu Power Light Meter see, it looks like well exposed even when looking at the histogram.

the image on the right is what the built-in camera's light meter see, on 0. It looks like underexpose even base on the histogram.

BUT... to my eyes, the image on the right is accurate.

Which one do you like or follow?
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What you're seeing is the difference between reflective metering and incident metering. The camera is using a reflective meter to give you a middle gray, and that's what you got. The incident meter is reading the light level itself, hence the difference.


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Oct 11, 2017 22:44 |  #5471

BTW: I'm assuming the door is supposed to be white, not grey, correct? ;) In which case the incident meter gave you the correct exposure to render the white door white.


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Oct 11, 2017 22:48 |  #5472

i know the difference with the incident and reflective. I should be more clearer. I'm comparing both to our eyes. In my eyes, the reading from the camera is actually more accurate, in the actual ambience.

yah it's white but given the existing light, the reading from the camera is actually correct. i'm confuse. lol


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Oct 11, 2017 23:24 |  #5473

I just compared the power of the Godox V860II Speedlight vs. Godox AD200(Fresnel). Both no modifiers.

Both at equal distance and both at full power. the V860II was zoomed to 35mm since the AD200(Fresnel) is constant at 35mm

V860II = F8
AD200 = F13

Light meter used was the Lumu Power Light Meter

is that a huge difference? is that accurate to most claims that it's equivalent to 3 speedlights? it does not sounds like since 3 V860II means F24, right? Please correct me if I'm wrong.

I know the bulb head is more powerful but it's for modifiers so i did not test it. Although if i used the bulb with the standard reflector, it's gonna be more powerful, right?


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Oct 11, 2017 23:44 |  #5474

vinmunoz wrote in post #18470855 (external link)
i know the difference with the incident and reflective. I should be more clearer. I'm comparing both to our eyes. In my eyes, the reading from the camera is actually more accurate, in the actual ambience.

yah it's white but given the existing light, the reading from the camera is actually correct. i'm confuse. lol

light meters don't care what your eyes see. They are going to tell you what values to use for a correct exposure. It's up to you to determine if you want to over or under expose. To my eyes the one from the camera is wrong and shows the limitation of reflective metering. Unless your door really is gray. If it looks gray to you because of low ambient, then it's up to you to expose to keep it that way, if you want. Bear in mind too that the door appears to be fairly close to the camera and flash relative to the other door, so as you increase flash power to get a correct exposure at the door, you're increasing the ratio between flash and ambient, which will have an effect on things further away from the flash due to falloff. So in that sense the resulting exposure difference between the door on the left and the one on the right is an effect of light placement and falloff.


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Oct 11, 2017 23:49 |  #5475

vinmunoz wrote in post #18470865 (external link)
I just compared the power of the Godox V860II Speedlight vs. Godox AD200(Fresnel). Both no modifiers.

Both at equal distance and both at full power. the V860II was zoomed to 35mm since the AD200(Fresnel) is constant at 35mm

V860II = F8
AD200 = F13

Light meter used was the Lumu Power Light Meter

is that a huge difference? is that accurate to most claims that it's equivalent to 3 speedlights? it does not sounds like since 3 V860II means F24, right? Please correct me if I'm wrong.

I know the bulb head is more powerful but it's for modifiers so i did not test it. Although if i used the bulb with the standard reflector, it's gonna be more powerful, right?

Well, if the V860 puts out what most competing speedlights put out, then it has about 70-80ws of power. One stop up from that would be 140-160ws, and the AD200 is at 200ws, making it about a stop and a half brighter, which sounds right to me. If the V860 has 70ws, 200ws would be almost 3x as powerful.


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