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Going from a 5DMKII to a 5DMKIV did it wow you?

 
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Oct 13, 2017 00:51 |  #1

Going from a 5DMKII to a 5DMKIV did it wow you?

Is it a big step up?


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Oct 13, 2017 00:54 |  #2

What's the 5DMKIV like for BIF?

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Oct 13, 2017 06:49 |  #3

fotoworx wrote in post #18471631 (external link)
What's the 5DMKIV like for BIF?

thanks

That depends a great deal on you. ;-)a


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Oct 13, 2017 07:30 |  #4

Absolutely, the 5D2, again IMO, was a warmed over 5D. The 5D4 blows the 5D2 away in every aspect.

- Resolution 21 vs 30
- AF 9pt vs 61
- AF f5.6 vs f8
- FPS 4 vs 7
- ISO 6400 easy 1 stop improvement with more detail
- Color rendering better on IV
- Buffer larger on IV
- Touch screen and wifi are very handy
- Better JPG engine by far
- Better build
- Better ergos with customizeable buttons
- More features
- Dual card slots

And this is all from memory in about 1 minute... :)

The 5D4 is a mini 1DX, and does any action, BIF or sports, very well.


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Oct 13, 2017 07:40 |  #5

I made exactly that upgrade, some things about it are pretty "wowing". Definitely worth the move.


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Oct 13, 2017 08:04 |  #6

TeamSpeed wrote in post #18471751 (external link)
Absolutely, the 5D2, again IMO, was a warmed over 5D. The 5D4 blows the 5D2 away in every aspect.

- Much longer battery life

I switched from the Mkii to the Mkiv. I'd agree everything you say, except for the much longer battery life. Batteries seemed to last forever without recharging in the 5Dii. That's certainly not the case with the 5Div.

Full disclosure: I used BBF with the 5Dii but mostly in One Shot AF mode. With the 5Div I use BBF in AI Servo AF mode pretty much all of the time. That is bound to use more juice but I don't think it would be enough on its own to explain the extent of the difference in battery life that I have experienced.

It's not a big deal ... you just have to be sure to carry a spare. With a fresh'ish battery in the 5Dii, I would happily go out for a day's shooting (even for a weekend's) without carrying a spare battery. That's definitely no longer the case with the 5Div.

That said, the 5Div is a huge step up from the 5Dii (doesn't make the 5Dii a lesser camera than it was before, of course).




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Oct 13, 2017 08:09 |  #7

fotoworx wrote in post #18471628 (external link)
Going from a 5DMKII to a 5DMKIV did it wow you?

Is it a big step up?

The AF alone is a monstrously big step. I have the same AF engine in my 5Dc as the 5D2, and everytime I grab my 1D3, I'm like dang, I wish my 5Dc sometimes had this kind of AF. And a 5DIV has way better AF than my old 1D3. So going from 5D2 to 5DIV, it probably feels like going to the future.

(Only slight exaggeration.)

The rest is also better, but not nearly as staggeringly better, as the AF differences.

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Oct 13, 2017 08:27 |  #8

Having had the 7D with the great AF system was the reason I never bought a 5D Mark II. Once the 5D Mark III was introduced with the 7D AF Sytem and more, I knew that was the time to jump.
Would love to jump to a 5D Mark IV.


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Oct 13, 2017 08:38 as a reply to DaviSto's post |  #9

I removed the battery comment, I agree it probably is about the same. I turned off GPS on the 5d4 and now the battery life is better, or at least it feels like it.


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Oct 13, 2017 18:04 |  #10

saea501 wrote in post #18471740 (external link)
That depends a great deal on you. ;-)a

Well that says nothing to me.

I did ok with a 5D2, so will a 5D4 wow me?


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TeamSpeed wrote in post #18471751 (external link)
Absolutely, the 5D2, again IMO, was a warmed over 5D. The 5D4 blows the 5D2 away in every aspect.

- Resolution 21 vs 30
- AF 9pt vs 61
- AF f5.6 vs f8
- FPS 4 vs 7
- ISO 6400 easy 1 stop improvement with more detail
- Color rendering better on IV
- Buffer larger on IV
- Touch screen and wifi are very handy
- Better JPG engine by far
- Better build
- Better ergos with customizeable buttons
- More features
- Dual card slots

And this is all from memory in about 1 minute... :)

The 5D4 is a mini 1DX, and does any action, BIF or sports, very well.


Thanks for the post.


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Oct 13, 2017 18:05 |  #12

MalVeauX wrote in post #18471778 (external link)
The AF alone is a monstrously big step. I have the same AF engine in my 5Dc as the 5D2, and everytime I grab my 1D3, I'm like dang, I wish my 5Dc sometimes had this kind of AF. And a 5DIV has way better AF than my old 1D3. So going from 5D2 to 5DIV, it probably feels like going to the future.

(Only slight exaggeration.)

The rest is also better, but not nearly as staggeringly better, as the AF differences.

Very best,


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Oct 14, 2017 06:25 |  #13

fotoworx wrote in post #18472132 (external link)
Well that says nothing to me.

I did ok with a 5D2, so will a 5D4 wow me?

I know nothing of your experience, if any, or your abilities with regard to shooting birds in flight. You simply asked what the camera was like for BIF. The 5D IV is a fabulously capable camera for this type of shooting but if you have zero experience shooting BIF, then your initial endeavors in that type of shooting may be somewhat disappointing. Hence my comment. Which, in that light, is quite true.

You say you did 'ok' with the II, then you will probably have better results with the IV.


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saea501 wrote in post #18472370 (external link)
You simply asked what the camera was like for BIF. The 5D IV is a fabulously capable camera for this type of shooting


It was a pretty simple question. Thanks for answering it.


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Oct 14, 2017 21:33 |  #15

If you routinely needed to underexpose a shot by -3EV to -5EV and then had to 'push' the data via post processing during manipulation of RAW files, the transition to 5DIV should be VERY remarkable to the lack of banding and other low ISO noise.

If if you seldom underexposed a shot by -3EV to -5EV and never had to 'push' the data via post processing, there would not be so much of a remarkable change.


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