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Apr 19, 2017 10:17 |  #16

I'd say stick with it.

At first, the tightness of a 400mm (35mm equivalent) up close will be hard to work with but the more you use it the better you will get with it. I agree that it is too much for when they get very close but I have always been told to shoot sports tight and to crop your images even tighter.

For me, switching to a long prime helped improve my sports photography because I couldn't zoom out and create another full body, loose photo which was my tendency with a zoom.


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Apr 26, 2017 13:22 |  #17

The 7D + 300 F/4 is growing on me. Shot six games with it so far and my keeper rate is slowly going up. Doesn't focus near as fast as my old 70-200 2.8 II IS, but does well. The misses I blame mostly on my own tracking. Overall, very pleased with my purchase. Not sure if I'll even upgrade it for next year as the only fault I'm finding right now is the photographer!

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Apr 26, 2017 13:40 |  #18

Good work :-)




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May 10, 2017 18:24 |  #19

Have you tried any night games? When you started the thread, that seemed to be important to you. Lighting varies a lot, of course, but I've never been happy with f 4.0 at a night game.

I'll add another vote for the Sigma 120-300 2.8. I have one that is a generation or 2 older, and it works great. The "fit and finish" are not nearly what Canon offers, but I saved a ton of money in comparison. I'm a little more tolerant of the lens cap pooping off knowing that I am a couple of thousand $ better off as a result. ;)




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May 12, 2017 07:17 |  #20

sfinkernagel wrote in post #18351440 (external link)
Have you tried any night games? When you started the thread, that seemed to be important to you. Lighting varies a lot, of course, but I've never been happy with f 4.0 at a night game.

I'll add another vote for the Sigma 120-300 2.8. I have one that is a generation or 2 older, and it works great. The "fit and finish" are not nearly what Canon offers, but I saved a ton of money in comparison. I'm a little more tolerant of the lens cap pooping off knowing that I am a couple of thousand $ better off as a result. ;)

Night games were a concern, however the games didn't run as late as I had originally thought they would. There ended up being plenty of light for the time she was playing. I was really pleased with the 7D + 300/F4 combo, especially for the price I paid. I would've never thought I could've had such a capable kit for under $1k. She'll be in JV for at least one more year, so I'll be re-evaluating gear again in Spring 2019 :)


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Oct 24, 2017 23:53 |  #21

sporadic wrote in post #18331978 (external link)
Never had much luck with AV as I always found myself having to ride exposure compensation when the sun is real harsh. It does work well however if its overcast / cloudy.
Staying behind the goal line on the recc fields wasn't an issue with my 70-200, however with the 300 I would only be capturing midfield and beyond action. Also, behind the goal isn't accessible on many of the high school fields we play on. Had another game last night and think I had more keepers. Haven't had a chance to cull them yet.

another issue with Av is when you have contrasting jersey colors or players of different skin colors, both being close to a guarantee in any game. Av almost assures that you will over or under expose one side. The only time I use Av is when there are areas of shadow and for that, I use the second back button on the 1D3 as my Av setting. Doing that allows you to sue full manual but without fiddling, simply move the thumb a fraction to the right and you are in Av with pre determined exposure comp and ISO settings.


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Oct 24, 2017 23:58 |  #22

sporadic wrote in post #18352660 (external link)
Night games were a concern, however the games didn't run as late as I had originally thought they would. There ended up being plenty of light for the time she was playing. I was really pleased with the 7D + 300/F4 combo, especially for the price I paid. I would've never thought I could've had such a capable kit for under $1k. She'll be in JV for at least one more year, so I'll be re-evaluating gear again in Spring 2019 :)

Its not as budget friendly as what you have but consider the Nikon D500 and Sigma 120-300 OS (non Sport) when you are ready to upgrade. That's about $3k worth of gear used and arguably rivals much more expensive Canon pro bodies. I tried one and was literally blown away by the Nikon. If I weren't building a 4/3rds kit alongside my DSLR for sports (currently a 1D3 and Sigma 120-300 OS with 1.4 and 2x tc's), I'd probably be jumping ship to Nikon. Never ever thought I'd say that but the D500 is that good and reasonably priced.


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