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Oct 23, 2017 12:03 |  #31

I got a Lenovo 15.6" 3840x2160 2-in-1. 1080P is perfectly doable, but I can see a difference in sharpness with 15 inches. Windows 10 is good about scaling. I previously had a 4K monitor at my old work (which was using Windows 7). Windows 7 wasn't so good with scaling apps that didn't support hiDPI (it's a feature that's present in current issues of Adobe software...and CS6 for Mac). The only app I've encountered on my new system that doesn't scale as well is Color Munki. I don't use it often, so I haven't tried a hack which involves making a manifest file for it. I'd say the only main weakness of UHD is that it can consume more battery power. For photo editing, I think it's nice. With higher resolutions, it's easier to see DOF (and can be more revealing about whether something is in focus).

As for choosing the Dell Precision, I'd say it's worth it if you do video editing or 3D animation work. For Photoshop/Lightroom it can be overkill. I got a Dell precision mobile workstation a few years ago for 3D work (and to compliment a desktop workstation I built from parts ordered at Parts Express). The precision is still going strong, and is a beast at rendering (thanks to a Quadro card). I no longer try to take it with me on trips or meetings, since the battery life is now almost non-existent. I now have my 2-in-1 for that. If you're not doing 3D or video work, I'd say the Dell XPS is a great jack of all trades laptop.


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Oct 23, 2017 14:11 |  #32

davesrose wrote in post #18479083 (external link)
I got a Lenovo 15.6" 3840x2160 2-in-1. 1080P is perfectly doable, but I can see a difference in sharpness with 15 inches. Windows 10 is good about scaling. I previously had a 4K monitor at my old work (which was using Windows 7). Windows 7 wasn't so good with scaling apps that didn't support hiDPI (it's a feature that's present in current issues of Adobe software...and CS6 for Mac). The only app I've encountered on my new system that doesn't scale as well is Color Munki. I don't use it often, so I haven't tried a hack which involves making a manifest file for it. I'd say the only main weakness of UHD is that it can consume more battery power. For photo editing, I think it's nice. With higher resolutions, it's easier to see DOF (and can be more revealing about whether something is in focus).

As for choosing the Dell Precision, I'd say it's worth it if you do video editing or 3D animation work. For Photoshop/Lightroom it can be overkill. I got a Dell precision mobile workstation a few years ago for 3D work (and to compliment a desktop workstation I built from parts ordered at Parts Express). The precision is still going strong, and is a beast at rendering (thanks to a Quadro card). I no longer try to take it with me on trips or meetings, since the battery life is now almost non-existent. I now have my 2-in-1 for that. If you're not doing 3D or video work, I'd say the Dell XPS is a great jack of all trades laptop.

Thanks Dave, that a wealth of information.

Yeah, the Precision would be overkill for me in some areas. I'm a big fan of Dell's XPS laptops, but a 17 inch is not available in the XPS lineup, and that's what I really want. Lots of other laptop makers to look into. Of course the display quality/specs are most important.


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Oct 23, 2017 14:44 as a reply to Perfectly Frank's post |  #33

My laptops used to be 17", when they did offer significant differences with the 15" models. Some like 12 or 13" for portability, but I'm finding my 15" Lenovo is really great for portability: very slim and can fit into a small carrying case and good screen size for working/watching Netflix. Before my Dell Precision, I had a HP 17" mobile workstation: it was good. Another company I have ordered workstations from is a fairly small outfit (that has good support) called Xi Computers. Here's a link to their CAD level laptops:

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Apart from Dell, HP, Lenovo, and Xi, gaming laptops come in 17" configurations as well. With those, Razor and MSI seem to be pretty popular.


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Oct 24, 2017 08:38 |  #34

I have an older Kirabook that I use for laptop travels and editing. 13" i5 8gb ram 256SSD, 3lbs, 1440p. It's scaled for sure, and editing isnt an issue except that small drive can get a bit claustrophobic. I also have a 17" lappy for work and have used it for travel since I may spend the entire day working from it, however I just make due with the 13. The 13 runs into problems when things arent scaled, like remote desktop, but changing the resolution can fix it. It can probably do 4-5 hours on battery, but I'de like something that can do 10+. Hopefully will get a macbook this year


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Oct 24, 2017 12:02 |  #35

Given the OP's spec listed (Intel Core i7 - 16GB Memory - NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1050 - 512GB SSD) or something very similar, could it handle both photo (LR & PS) editing AND video editing, specifically photo editing while video is rendering simultaneously?



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Oct 24, 2017 13:22 as a reply to SYS's post |  #36

Current computers are pretty good about multitasking, but speed of rendering video in background while editing a photo depends on complexity. Certain encoders are faster, bitrate, resolution, audio encoder, etc....they all are factors in video rendering speed. If rendering a complex video with a large PS file with multiple layers, there may be hiccups.


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Oct 24, 2017 23:17 |  #37

SYS wrote in post #18479851 (external link)
Given the OP's spec listed (Intel Core i7 - 16GB Memory - NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1050 - 512GB SSD) or something very similar, could it handle both photo (LR & PS) editing AND video editing, specifically photo editing while video is rendering simultaneously?

Keep in mind that video processors are highly aimed at gamers, and the rendering of 3D animations. Photo editing is nothing like 3D game rendering. And ray tracing for creation of shadows cast by 3D objects is not a requirement for photo image editing and preview creation.
Furthermore, RAW convertor programs may not yet be well optimized to USE video processors to best advantage.


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Oct 25, 2017 19:51 |  #38

Premiere and AE both massively benefit from GPU acceleration. Photoshop has a bunch of stuff that requires GPU acceleration for it to work at all including a bunch of blurs and some of the sharpening tools. Camera Raw also benefits from using your GPU...


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