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Oct 31, 2017 14:02 |  #6496

digital_AM wrote in post #18485567 (external link)
Ok thanks for confirming. I keep forgetting about using the SR app in the field for situations like this where you want to preserve highlight detail and then bring up the shadows in post without incurring much noise. Then I could work off a single exposure which make things easier when shooting interiors. I have another shoot on Friday on a commercial building that I will try. I will shoot my normal brackets and then also grab an exposure with the SR app that is underexposed.

I did shoot some of the interiors with the SR app, but neither of the ones I have posted were done with that. I might have to go back and re-work them both and do some LM and see if I like it better...this job is mostly for printed materials and web images, nothing is going to be viewed large...so I might be over analyzing what I am doing...

mystik610 wrote in post #18485573 (external link)
I'd grab two AD200's in lieu of the xplor 600. I think the xplor 600 would be overkill for RE most of the time and you'd be better served by having two lights that you can place at different locations. If you happen to need a lot of power, you can use dual head....or use my bootleg method of sticking the ad200 inside the modifer itself. The flexibility of these little lights are awesome...I just added another.

Another upside of the ad200 is that you can easily use a speedlight gel to color correct them. This is pretty key when you're mixing flash with ambient light as uncorrected speedlights create nasty color casts when you expose for the ambient. It's one of the few things that is easier to correct in the field than in post.

I need to figure that stuff out...the same client these other images are for has some large buildings that need to be done that will no doubt require some OCF to accomplish the job.


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Oct 31, 2017 14:03 |  #6497

Also thanks for all the congratulation messages everyone


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Oct 31, 2017 14:14 |  #6498

TRhoads wrote in post #18485592 (external link)
I did shoot some of the interiors with the SR app, but neither of the ones I have posted were done with that. I might have to go back and re-work them both and do some LM and see if I like it better...this job is mostly for printed materials and web images, nothing is going to be viewed large...so I might be over analyzing what I am doing...

I need to figure that stuff out...the same client these other images are for has some large buildings that need to be done that will no doubt require some OCF to accomplish the job.

Travis, that is why I was thinking about going with a Godox strobe. I'm shooting architecture photography, not traditional real estate so the need to light large spaces is there. The Godox AD200 speedlights may do the trick but I'm just concerned that they won't be powerful enough for large conference rooms, lobbies, and such.


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Oct 31, 2017 14:18 |  #6499

Guys if you're using external hard drives, do yourself a favor and build a system to automatically create a redundant backup.

I'm still in the process of trying to recover mine.

I've purchased a couple partition recovery softwares...some for mac, some for PC. None of them were able to repair the partition after leaving the software running overnight, so I have no choice but to wait out the slow onerous process of trying to recover a 4tb drive. The files are intact in the drive (recovery programs I've run can see them), but recovering files via USB is reaaaaaally slow. I tried to be smart and hooked the drive up directly to the my PC via sata.....the thing is that external hard drives are encrypted so the drives will not initialize unless they are in the enclosure itself. I did not know this until now, but it looks like I'm stuck waiting this out. At the rate its going now, it will take days.

Not fun.


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Oct 31, 2017 14:29 |  #6500

mystik610 wrote in post #18485602 (external link)
Guys if you're using external hard drives, do yourself a favor and build a system to automatically create a redundant backup.

I'm still in the process of trying to recover mine.

I've purchased a couple partition recovery softwares...some for mac, some for PC. None of them were able to repair the partition after leaving the software running overnight, so I have no choice but to wait out the slow onerous process of trying to recover a 4tb drive. The files are intact in the drive (recovery programs I've run can see them), but recovering files via USB is reaaaaaally slow. I tried to be smart and hooked the drive up directly to the my PC via sata.....the thing is that external hard drives are encrypted so the drives will not initialize unless they are in the enclosure itself. I did not know this until now, but it looks like I'm stuck waiting this out. At the rate its going now, it will take days.

Not fun.

Dang, that sucks. I hope you get all your important files back soon. I'v recently reorganized my images and Lightroom catalog across multiple internal and external hard drives. This is the approach I took:

Internal Drive #1: Lightroom and Photoshop cache
Internal Drive #2: Current Year Images. Consider this my primary working drive.
External Drive #3: Main Backup drive. 6TB. Holds all my images.
External Drive #4: Secondary backup drive. Holds years 2015 and 2016 images
External Drive #5: Third backup drive. Holds years 2014 and earlier.
Online storage: Smugmug. Holds copies of my portfolio images and other favorites including personal family images

Once I get a Synology NAS, I can consolidate the roles of some of the external drives but will still keep backups on separate external drives.


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Oct 31, 2017 14:33 |  #6501

digital_AM wrote in post #18485590 (external link)
Good points Carlo. Thanks for the feedback. I will check them out. Any light stands that you would recommend?

What kind of modifiers are you using? If its something relatively small, cheap-o stands will do.

I'm personally using c-stands right now, but its because I'm using really big modifiers for portrait lighting.

digital_AM wrote in post #18485600 (external link)
Travis, that is why I was thinking about going with a Godox strobe. I'm shooting architecture photography, not traditional real estate so the need to light large spaces is there. The Godox AD200 speedlights may do the trick but I'm just concerned that they won't be powerful enough for large conference rooms, lobbies, and such.

The AD200 is less of a speedlight and more of a mini strobe. It was 3 stops more power than a speedlight, and 1 1/3 stops less power than the xplor 600.

The size of the room does dictate how much power you need, but not as much as how much ambient light you're trying to overpower, and/or how quickly you need your lights to recycle.. xplor type power is needed when you're trying to overpower the sun, with HSS, and while using a power sucking modifier. Lighting something like a cathedral space is very similar in my mind to using bounce flash in a church (bounce flash is more taxing than direct flash), and that's actually doable with a regular speedlight...particula​rly if you're exposing for the ambient and don't need to fire shots at a rapid pace.


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Oct 31, 2017 14:34 |  #6502

TRhoads wrote in post #18485359 (external link)
Thanks! I am kicking myself...I clipped that bottom rock...will try to reshoot it this weekend...

I bet Gene could whip you up a bottom rock.


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Oct 31, 2017 14:35 as a reply to post 18485591 |  #6503

Eddie congratulations on Eddie Jr. :)
Maybe Eddard? Perfect excuse to add another camera!


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Oct 31, 2017 14:36 |  #6504

Glad you might be able to recover the files Carlo.

My setup is MacBook internal drive has current year. Synology NAS has all other years (redundancy built in with RAID). Every time I plug my MacBook in timemachine backs it up to the synology automatically (so current year files constantly backed up to NAS). Then I have two external drives attached to the synology and the synology built in app backs up everything to the two externals once a week. So overall everything on my MacBook is backed up at all times, I have redundancy in my NAS and the NAS is also backed up to external drives. I’m hoping that’s enough but it does concern me often.

Next task is to sort the folder structure better on how I do things - subfolder for jpegs, sub folder for tiffs etc


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Oct 31, 2017 14:38 |  #6505

MedicineMan4040 wrote in post #18485613 (external link)
Eddie congratulations on Eddie Jr. :)
Maybe Eddard? Perfect excuse to add another camera!

Thanks MM. Eddard reminds me of game of thrones :). We went with Isla


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Oct 31, 2017 14:43 |  #6506

mystik610 wrote in post #18485610 (external link)
What kind of modifiers are you using? If its something relatively small, cheap-o stands will do.

I'm personally using c-stands right now, but its because I'm using really big modifiers for portrait lighting.

The AD200 is less of a speedlight and more of a mini strobe. It was 3 stops more power than a speedlight, and 1 1/3 stops less power than the xplor 600.

The size of the room does dictate how much power you need, but not as much as how much ambient light you're trying to overpower, and/or how quickly you need your lights to recycle.. xplor type power is needed when you're trying to overpower the sun, with HSS, and while using a power sucking modifier. Lighting something like a cathedral space is very similar in my mind to using bounce flash in a church (bounce flash is more taxing than direct flash), and that's actually doable with a regular speedlight...particula​rly if you're exposing for the ambient and don't need to fire shots at a rapid pace.

No modifiers anticipated since the flash exposure will be blended in with the ambient. Setting the ambient to lighten mode and mixing with the flash exposure will help cancel out color cast. Thanks for the info on the AD200. I thought it performed similar to a speedlight but I see that's not the case.

As a side note, I'm a bit torn on the idea of introducing lighting into my architecture photography workflow. I'm concerned that it will deviate from the "style and look" that my current clients selected me for in the first place. Is that odd to think that way?


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Oct 31, 2017 14:45 |  #6507

xpfloyd wrote in post #18485078 (external link)
Excuse the Fuji photo but just wanted to let you guys know my daughter Isla was born 4 hours ago. She is less than 10 mins old here. Couldnt help myself looking at the photos in lightroom when I got home. Time for some sleep now!

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Oct 31, 2017 14:46 |  #6508

MedicineMan4040 wrote in post #18485612 (external link)
I bet Gene could whip you up a bottom rock.

You mean like this? :lol:

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Oct 31, 2017 14:46 |  #6509

Yeah I work off of a MacBook pro because things are hectic right now and need to be flexible in terms of where I process photos. What screwed me is that my current year lightroom catalog got too big for my internal drive....so I had to migrate it to an external drive...and that drive went belly up before I could back it up to my NAS. The thing is the most high risk stuff to lose is the current stuff that I'm still processing. I have crap from 10 years ago sitting pretty in my NAS, but no one cares about those lol.


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Oct 31, 2017 14:55 |  #6510

irishguy0224 wrote in post #18485534 (external link)
do either of you have sample pics using it? I would be interested to see the bokeh it produces at f4 200mm or so.

A random group of 200mm @ f/4:

IMAGE: https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4449/38071799111_275a16378d_o.jpg
[IMAGE'S LINK: https://flic.kr/p/211g​Vtv] (external link)DSC08202 (external link) by David Arbogast (external link), on Flickr
IMAGE: https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4506/38018492256_713b220218_o.jpg
[IMAGE'S LINK: https://flic.kr/p/ZVyH​cN] (external link)Nick & Natasha Wedding-08461 (external link) by David Arbogast (external link), on Flickr
IMAGE: https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4499/38071782461_2d01499b86_o.jpg
[IMAGE'S LINK: https://flic.kr/p/211g​Qwr] (external link)Nick & Natasha Wedding-08448 (external link) by David Arbogast (external link), on Flickr
IMAGE: https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4496/37362188194_334e5b2aa8_o.jpg
[IMAGE'S LINK: https://flic.kr/p/YVyY​Sw] (external link)Missouri Town-08909 (external link) by David Arbogast (external link), on Flickr
IMAGE: https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4449/37362192694_089b2b9bc1_o.jpg
[IMAGE'S LINK: https://flic.kr/p/YVz1​d7] (external link)Missouri Town-08893 (external link) by David Arbogast (external link), on Flickr
IMAGE: https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4465/37362202724_7b58a0b3d1_o.jpg
[IMAGE'S LINK: https://flic.kr/p/YVz4​c3] (external link)DSC06756 (external link) by David Arbogast (external link), on Flickr
IMAGE: https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4487/38071806451_fbc79acf17_o.jpg
[IMAGE'S LINK: https://flic.kr/p/211g​XE4] (external link)DSC06728 (external link) by David Arbogast (external link), on Flickr
IMAGE: https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4514/38018506846_07e86129ac_o.jpg
[IMAGE'S LINK: https://flic.kr/p/ZVyM​xm] (external link)DSC06718 (external link) by David Arbogast (external link), on Flickr

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