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Elinchrom Rotalux 135cm V.S 175cm V.S Deep Octa 100 cm

 
Jaynez
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Feb 04, 2013 01:25 |  #1

Been using my 22' Kacey Beauty with my Elinchrom D-Lite 4 IT for a while, now i'm looking for smth bigger, after research came down to this 3 octa-sofboxes :

1. Rotalux® Softbox Deep Octa 100 cm
2. Rotalux® Softbox 135cm
3. Rotalux® Softbox 175cm

mainly used for outdoor portrait, full body, headshoots, 1-4 people and cars etc. I'd like to hear some recommendations based on your experiences.


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Feb 04, 2013 14:33 |  #2

One thing you'll run into with the bigger octas is that they might not be very stable on the Dlite-4. My Dlite-4 strobes are several years old, and maybe they've improved the mount, but if not, anything over 135mm (and maybe even that one) won't be very stable. The Bxri and RX strobes have sturdier mounts for the bigger octas. With that said, the ones you mentioned are all nice but have different characteristics and serve different purposes. I'm surprised you didn't throw the 70cm Deep Octa in there too! I happen to like that one for head shots, but I also like the Kacey 22" BD that you have for that. Grids for any of these from Lighttools will be very expensive. So that's something to consider. The deep octas give you more directional light. They all provide very even lighting across the swath of light they produce. I find the 100cm deep octa to be very versatile, and while I haven't shot cars with it, I've used it for everything else you've listed.


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Feb 04, 2013 14:54 |  #3

Thank Your your suggestions, i will use the kacey only when i don't have enough space to carry a big softbox.
The idea is to use the softbox for everything i listed.. did you use the 100cm deep octa for group of 4+ people ? the reason i'm only considering bigger ones because i'd use it for group shoots and cars !

About the weight problem with D-lite 4 IT, i did some researches and saw few videos,, it handles the 135cm w/o problems, but dunno if the 175cm is good to go.


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Nov 04, 2017 11:39 |  #4

So which one did u buy? I hv dlite 4 too and I love kids photography. I need v soft light and 135 cms is max size it can afford. Pls suggest if u brought one?




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Nov 04, 2017 14:34 |  #5

Anything should work. I have 135mm in studio. For outdoors I use SP Systems 37" octa which is like the deep octa. I also have photoflex 5' octa which is pretty good. You can even use much cheaper photek softliter for indoor use. All depends on your budget.


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Nov 05, 2017 06:39 |  #6

If cost is a barrier, there are a couple cost-effective alternatives which work quite well.

One is a parabolic reflective umbrella with a diffuser. It is possible to get the pair for as little as $100 on sale and for $130 at regular street price in the US for the 7foot size.

Another option is to get or make a large diffusion panel, this allows you to vary the size or evenness of the light (uneven can be an advantage for some things). This option can also be combined with other options.

If cars are on the agenda, rectilinear light sources are often preferable, which favors the diffusion panel over an umbrella or octabox option.

I don't know how the price compares, but the 150cm indirect is quite versatile.


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