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My first look at Canon's new 85 mm

 
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Nov 11, 2017 15:39 as a reply to post 18493870 |  #136

as always wait 6 months after release to read "real" reviews.


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Nov 12, 2017 19:23 |  #137

I took pictures of some people at church today and this nice homeless guy wanted his picture taken as well.

So far, I'm really liking this lens.

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Nov 12, 2017 20:31 |  #138

TeamSpeed wrote in post #18464617 (external link)
nice bokeh, pretty smooth!

I was going to say not as good as 85L but would like to do side by side to be sure.


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Nov 12, 2017 20:37 |  #139

mclaren777 wrote in post #18494988 (external link)
I took pictures of some people at church today and this nice homeless guy wanted his picture taken as well.

So far, I'm really liking this lens.
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I like this shot but something seems a little off and I can't put my head on it.

Edited:- Looking again and his beard seems quite a bit more sharp and mustache is quite blurry. Even the hair below the lip are sharper while mustache above lip isn't.


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Nov 12, 2017 20:42 |  #140

Dlee13 wrote in post #18492059 (external link)
IBIS is something that they definitely need to add to future bothers if they continue to aim for higher MP sensors. I've actually read of quite a few people complaining that on bodies like the 5DSr they need a lot higher shutter speed to get a sharp image as the camera shake shows up a lot easier.

I'm in Sydney so I'm not sure where I'll buy it from once I have the funds and sell off my Sigma.

I just got GFX with 110mm f2 and did a shoot. Shot at 1/125 (max sync speed) hand held and that lens is super sharp at f2 which is like f1.6 on FF. Seems better than my 85L. Would I like IS on the lens, for sure for the price that I paid.


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Nov 12, 2017 20:44 |  #141

Ah-keong wrote in post #18492296 (external link)
personally, I would prefer the magical look of the 50mm f/1,2L and the 85mm f/1.2L mark II.
However I understand there are some focus issues (AF speed, focus shift, etc). When you nail it, its magical and 3D "pop" look is unique.

the modern look are kinda clinical, like the sigma Art series and the Canon modern zooms you mentioned....
and Z.e.i.s.s.... :p

maybe its me, I prefer the old school look....

I am with you. 200mm f2 look is no way near as 24-70mm f2.8 II which to me has one of the worst looks. I bought it when it came and maybe took < 10 pictures. My 35L I, Sigma 35mm f1.4 art, Sigma 50mm f1.4 not art, Sigma 85mm f1.4 non art and 85L II were all better than that 24-70mm zoom.


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Nov 12, 2017 21:14 |  #142

I believe there is a compromise when Canon choose to release the 85mm f/1,4L IS for some genres like events, weddings, action, etc and choose not to discontinue the 85mm f/1,2L mark II for specialized genres like portraits.

Hope the "85mm f/1,2L mark III" has faster AF speed and mechanical MF like the 50mm f/1,2L  :p

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Nov 13, 2017 02:23 |  #143

IMO, it looks like non L 85mm with IS.




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Nov 13, 2017 02:52 |  #144

Personally I use the 85mm prime solely for portraiture, for events and actions i prefer 70-200 2.8 II due to versatility. The 1.2L is a one trick pony but it's one helluva pony doing what it does best, it's the main reason why so many portrait photographers who owned the 1.2 willing to put up with the horrendous purple fringing (possibly the worst LoCa I've ever seen in any L lens) and slow/inconsistent AF for so many years. Due to its short comings, i don't always find a great pleasure or fun to use in comparison to the 35L II or 100L Macro, but for portraiture it is the first lens i grabbed out of the bag because it simply delivered for me, every single time.


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Nov 13, 2017 04:00 |  #145

Having seen in the last few weeks so many posts on 85mm I decided yesterday to grab my old EF 85 1.8 and shot the kids playing at the beach. Looking at the results now ..... and I am really struggling to find compelling arguments to justify even looking at lenses 3 to 6 times more expensive.
Probably the best Canon's value for money proposal.


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Nov 13, 2017 08:28 |  #146

bobbyz wrote in post #18495037 (external link)
I like this shot but something seems a little off and I can't put my head on it.

Edited:- Looking again and his beard seems quite a bit more sharp and mustache is quite blurry. Even the hair below the lip are sharper while mustache above lip isn't.


this is a closer focus lens than the 85LII F1.2 - and even at F2.8, the DoF, at that focus distance is very thin. The eye is sharp, and the shape of his face is such that the chin is still on the edge of the sharp zone whereas his further towards the camera mustache is not - if you saw his side profile it would be obvious.

it is one of the reason that with closer focus lenses such as the new tamron VC primes, you really need to stop down to get enough DoF - and yet the background and foreground will still be blown out


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Nov 13, 2017 10:29 |  #147

wallstreetoneil wrote in post #18495292 (external link)
this is a closer focus lens than the 85LII F1.2 - and even at F2.8, the DoF, at that focus distance is very thin. The eye is sharp, and the shape of his face is such that the chin is still on the edge of the sharp zone whereas his further towards the camera mustache is not - if you saw his side profile it would be obvious.

it is one of the reason that with closer focus lenses such as the new tamron VC primes, you really need to stop down to get enough DoF - and yet the background and foreground will still be blown out

Yup, the razor thin DOF was the reason. Notice his eyebrows, nose, and mustache/upper lips are aligned on the same plane of focus which are all blurred.


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Nov 14, 2017 11:08 |  #148

Just placed my order for one of these this morning.

I've owned two 85 f/1.2L's and had mixed feelings each time. When I compared the results to my 200 f/2, it was hard not to notice the lack of sharpness and abundant CA from the 85. However, I still crave the 85mm focal length. I've been wanting one for quite some time.

I just recently rented the S85A - great lens, incredibly sharp, fast focus, but really big and bulky. I almost purchased the Sigma, then realized I'd be spending about $400 on an ND filter for it. For $100 more than that, I can get the Canon, have IS, and maybe better focus accuracy/consistency. I'm taking a gamble that I'll like the Canon but I can return it if it doesn't fit my needs.

I'll let everyone know my thoughts about it when it arrives.

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Nov 14, 2017 17:21 |  #149

A review!!

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Nov 14, 2017 18:23 |  #150

And ... unlike the DPR boys, the reviewer knows how to take a photograph! Such a relief.

But I'm still discounting this review completely. Reviewer used the 6Dii ... which we all know to be a totally crippled and worthless camera with all the DR of a Box Brownie ...


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