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Feb 16, 2017 13:54 |  #541

kenwood33 wrote in post #18275333 (external link)
That sounds great. Do you have any lessons learned that you want to share? What worked? What didn't?

The biggest takeaway I got is to take SEO seriously, and be committed to have every image with a proper description, alt titles extremely important. Text as links on your home page instead of buttons, no logo with my name as a jpg on the front page, text only. No spam, but real content that uses most words you want to be searched for. I took an initial hit on my permalinks to make mine be descriptive. /model-photography, /boudoir-photography, /engagement-photography, etc, but it was worth it.

By far, and I mean by far the most important though, is to sign up to both Google webmaster tools and Google Analytics, have your page crawled anytime you make a significant change, and provide a site map url.

I did a crawl request after I heavily changed my permalinks and after a dip for 1-2 weeks, and saw a significant jump up.

What good is your website and all the SEO work, if the search engines don't know it even exists?

Case and point, and anyone can experiment for themselves and view how they rank. Download a new browser, clear all cookie and cache and search for what people would search for.

Ran a search on google for "my city" boudoir . I am page 2 in a city with a population of 1 million. Ran it for "my city" model photography, I am on page 2 right next to one of the top model agency in the city (one I am collaborating with now).

I tried it with Bing. I never submitted a site map. I am on page 17. Guess what I will be doing this week? I will report back on how it helps in a few weeks.

Yahoo? I stopped at page 25 or so. Both those search engines are still important.

Search "Calgary boudoir" on Google. Some results may vary, but you should find my website http://www.cormierphot​o.ca (external link) around page 2. A year ago it barely existed and was not updated since 2012. My redesign was done last month.

Anybody can do the same with a little elbow grease. Those who read this thread should definitely take advantage.




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Feb 16, 2017 14:23 |  #542

Another point I wanted to bring up which i made the mistake myself. Unless your potential client knows you by name and searching you by name, no one on the internet cares one bit about your name when searching on Google. They care about their interests.

People search for "mycity wedding", not "Firstname Lastname Photography". Your brand may be important, but what is more important is what you are trying to sell and that people can find what you are selling through their interests. I was searching for my page on google at first with my name just so I can see it on Google. That's great, except people are not searching that way, and at the beginning, it wasn't even the top link!

Sometimes it is harder to think like a client, but it is important to know how they think so you can present your product to them when they think it :).




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Feb 17, 2017 21:35 |  #543

Firebot wrote in post #18275708 (external link)
Another point I wanted to bring up which i made the mistake myself. Unless your potential client knows you by name and searching you by name, no one on the internet cares one bit about your name when searching on Google. They care about their interests.

People search for "mycity wedding", not "Firstname Lastname Photography". Your brand may be important, but what is more important is what you are trying to sell and that people can find what you are selling through their interests. I was searching for my page on google at first with my name just so I can see it on Google. That's great, except people are not searching that way, and at the beginning, it wasn't even the top link!

Sometimes it is harder to think like a client, but it is important to know how they think so you can present your product to them when they think it :).

What you said make sense. Do you try to target keywords using your main index page, or do you have specific pages that certain different keywords?


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Feb 20, 2017 01:32 |  #544

thanks for the article




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Feb 27, 2017 11:48 |  #545

kenwood33 wrote in post #18277089 (external link)
What you said make sense. Do you try to target keywords using your main index page, or do you have specific pages that certain different keywords?

My main page actually has very little. It has my titles and descriptive links, but that is it. My subpages however are full of them, simply to get Google to go to that page.

So my boudoir photography page as an example, would have the link boudoir-photography, a blurb about boudoir photography that shows on google, and all my images, have titles and captions that either include boudoir, lingerie, or my city in some instances. I also added a keyword section at the bottom which gets picked up by Google. Same for model photography. When a search is done through google for boudoir photography, my boudoir photography subpage is what shows up.

Oddly enough, at first my bing experiment was successful. After signing up to websmaster tools, both my boudoir and model photography pages showed up on page 3 a week later. For whatever reason I am now nowhere to be found. I will have to figure out why, it is almost as if they removed it. One thing I did learn is it is an ongoing effort, and not something you do once and think it is done as something can and will likely happen.




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May 14, 2017 21:52 |  #546

I would add try to use also the tools like SemRush, Moz and Hrefs to analyse backlinks opportunities, it is important to build a strategy on it


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Nov 27, 2017 16:07 |  #547

LucasCK wrote in post #18272980 (external link)
From what I understand links to your site is the most important thing when it comes to SEO.. Onsite things such as content and link structure is important but without links you won't rank well

Shame because it's the hardest thing to get naturally.. That's why I use an SEO company, they do back links, blog posting, article submission etc

I was wondering how much you pay for your SEO company Lucas? I am also looking for some help with backlinks.


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Dec 08, 2017 10:26 |  #548

Create quality content and Do not try to scam the search engines. Search Engines analyze content and know how to do it very well.

I have been doing SEO for more then 15 years. A few observations I have seen in the industry.

Scam the system- People will have a low grade homemade website with no real quality content. Then they will find some little scam on the 3rd page of google and think it will fool google. Wrong..

Google bot knows a lot about websites it knows if it was professionally built, how long ago it was built, if the photos are original, if the content is original. Google bot also knows cheap paid links from real links. the only person that is getting fooled is the the fool trying to scam a system they know nothing about.

Hiring low grade scammers
- People will go on fivver and hire some guy for $5-$50 and think they will get quality seo work. They usually get back-links from garbage robot sites and a few meta tags keywords=worthless actually negative value because the google bot knows it is a low grade scam attempt. The only one benefiting is the guy from fivver who has your $5 and put a backdoor into your site.

SEO Plugins- If you have a low grade website a plugin will not make it rank better. It will probably just plant a backdoor into your Wordpress website("free" has to make money some how).

--Bottom line-- search engines can tell if a website is professional and quality. A real SEO person can help you lay out your website so search engines will catalog and display the professional content you have the way you want it to be displayed. If you do not have professional content do not expect to rank above websites that do.




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