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Canon: Buy Lens or Body Dilemma

 
jksnipersydney
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Dec 14, 2017 18:55 |  #1

Hi,

So I shoot weddings and portraits in general and here's my current gear list:

1 x canon 5dmk3

1 x 70-200 2.8 ii

1 x 16-35 2.8 ii

1 x 100 2.8 ii macro

2 x 600 exrt speedlights

1 x godox ad600

I borrow my brothers canon 5dmk3 so i have two bodies for my work.

My dilemma is this:

- buy a new canon 5dmk3

- buy a new canon 5dmk4 (i noticed they have improved dynamic range)

- service the two cameras i use (shutter replacement, etc) and purchase a new lens (85mm 1.2 ii used / 85mm 1.4 / 35mm 1.4 ii - sell my 16-35)

What would you choose? And why?




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ShadowHillsPhoto
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Dec 15, 2017 09:13 |  #2

Shooting weddings with nothing to cover from 35-70mm seems like an odd choice to me. I would think a standard zoom like the 24-70mm 2.8 II should be at the top of your list, followed by a fast prime at 50mm or 85mm. You have access to two bodies already so I don't see much need to be preemptively replacing shutters. It's entirely possible you could be removing a shutter with more life left in it than the new shutter you replace it with.




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Dec 15, 2017 10:10 |  #3

I have to agree with the above. Either the 24-70mm 2.8 II or the 24-105mm II if you want IS.


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Colin ­ Glover
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Dec 15, 2017 11:37 |  #4

Agree you need something between 35-70. Why only Canon guys? What about Siggy or Tammy. I've heard they give more IQ per buck.


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AlanU
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Dec 15, 2017 11:50 |  #5

I'd suggest sticking with your bodies.

Look into getting a fast prime wide angle like a 24Lmk2 or 35Lmk1 or mk2.

Not sure what your style is but I prefer my 16-35/70-200 combo for many of my events. In my case I'd like to sell my 16-35mk2 and buy a 16-35 f/2.8 mk3. I own the 24-70Lmk2 and seldom ever use it unless I'm doing fun casual video with my 80d or 5dmk4. If i do use the 24-70L for events I shoot more 24mm or 35mm and foot zoom with that lens. Must be careful with those versatile zooms as you can get lazy in the moment and get perspectives that uncle bob will get by spinning the zoom ring instead of concentrating on perspective.

Hard call but to be more universal I'd suggest getting the 85Lf/1.4 over the 85Lmk2 f/1.2. However if your going to use it specifically for portraits only I'd say the 85Lmk2 f/1.2 might give you a tad little more special thinner dof.

Hard call on gear acquisition as you must cater to your style. Anyone participating in this thread just stimulates ideas you can try or follow.

Once you get your lens gear sorted out I'd say seriously look into the 5dmk4. Truthfully speaking it's different than the 5dmk3. I find autofocus to be more accurate when using my 24Lmk2 and other fast primes. Gazing at the files I manipulate in LR the files look sharper perhaps due to the added resolution. My 16-35mm mk2 seems to be a sharper lens when using it on my 5dmk4 vs my 5dmk3.


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Bassat
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Dec 15, 2017 16:17 |  #6

Full disclosure: I don't do weddings. Even as a guest.

Seems to me that most weddings have lots of DR. Black blacks and white whites all over the place. Perhaps the 5D4 is something to consider.


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jksnipersydney
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Dec 16, 2017 14:48 |  #7

I had the 24-70 when I was using Nikon and I find the 24-70 range to be a bit boring and I can cover that with my foot if necessary. The wider range of 16 can get some more interesting perspectives in other circumstances.

Having said that I'm also leaning towards going absolute prime with a 35mm 1.4 & 85mm 1.4 combo as it allows me to keep my iso low in those dark churches and better bokeh capability. Especially with Canons dynamic range you can't bring back the shadows as much as Sony sensors.

I've actually saw more reviews on the mark iii vs Mark IV comparisons on YouTube and it appears there's not a huge significant upgrade overall to justify the extra price. So will most likely take that option out and will look at either getting another mark iii or a new prime.




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Scottboarding
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Dec 16, 2017 15:05 |  #8

You don't have anything faster than f2.8, so my advice would be to look at a fast prime (or even zoom). When I started photography the best investment I ever made was with a fast prime. It opened up a lot of opportunities and kept my ISO down at the same time. For the price of the Canon 85 (both 1.2 and 1.4) you could get a combo such as the Tamron 35mm f1.8 VC and Tamron 85mm f1.8 VC which would give you over a stop of advantage with two different focal lengths.


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