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Dec 26, 2017 05:08 |  #691

2slo wrote in post #18526313 (external link)
Fine for static or relatively slow moving subjects.

This is also 1000mm:

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Yet to try anything other than static or relatively slow since getting this combo, however trying it out on a Canon day at a local motor racing track before purchasing it tracked cars accelerating at over 160km just fine so hoping similar results with BIF... picking them up and keeping them in the viewfinder at 1000mm may be a different story.


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Dec 26, 2017 05:16 |  #692

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2slo wrote in post #18526313 (external link)
Yet to try anything other than static or relatively slow since getting this combo, however trying it out on a Canon day at a local motor racing track before purchasing it tracked cars accelerating at over 160km just fine so hoping similar results with BIF... picking them up and keeping them in the viewfinder at 1000mm may be a different story.

I've found that relatively slow moving subjects (and I'm thinking birds in flight here, so Herons, Gulls etc) are okay. Less so the smaller faster species which change direction rapidly, they aren't impossible but I've found the AF struggles to lock on when using the 2 x TC so just anticipate a lower success rate




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Dec 26, 2017 17:07 |  #693

Looking at what bodies you two are using, you should be having completely different experiences with the 2XIII and this lens.

I am finding with the latest AF system, the old Canon "stamp on the brakes" AF speed that was inherent with the T-Cons is no longer there (or at least not NEARLY as pronounced)

My 1D4 it is still very much present, on the 5D4, it's a thing of the past.

On a 1DxII I'd imagine that the biggest issue is simply our own ability to frame a moving subject @ 1000mm. The hardware should keep up.


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Dec 26, 2017 17:28 |  #694

CyberDyneSystems wrote in post #18526712 (external link)
Looking at what bodies you two are using, you should be having completely different experiences with the 2XIII and this lens.

I am finding with the latest AF system, the old Canon "stamp on the brakes" AF speed that was inherent with the T-Cons is no longer there (or at least not NEARLY as pronounced)

My 1D4 it is still very much present, on the 5D4, it's a thing of the past.

On a 1DxII I'd imagine that the biggest issue is simply our own ability to frame a moving subject @ 1000mm. The hardware should keep up.

I can add a bit to this as I had a 1Dx and took probably 5k images using it with the 500mm inc the 1.4 and 2x TC IIIs. I never found the 1Dx to be any great improvement in AF consistancy over the 1DmkIV, that's not to say the 1Dx was bad just that the 1DmkIV was (and still is) so good. The 1Dx paid its way in IQ as the ISO was pushed up when the light failed. Here it was really good. Not doing so many bird images these days though, the 1Dx went in p/ex for my Fuji GFX and I don't regret that. I kept my 1DmkIV as it feels like it will go on forever, keep the ISO low and it'll still hold its own. Looking forward to getting out with it again in the new year.




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Dec 26, 2017 19:23 |  #695

2slo wrote in post #18526721 (external link)
I can add a bit to this as I had a 1Dx and took probably 5k images using it with the 500mm inc the 1.4 and 2x TC IIIs. I never found the 1Dx to be any great improvement in AF consistancy over the 1DmkIV, that's not to say the 1Dx was bad just that the 1DmkIV was (and still is) so good. The 1Dx paid its way in IQ as the ISO was pushed up when the light failed. Here it was really good. Not doing so many bird images these days though, the 1Dx went in p/ex for my Fuji GFX and I don't regret that. I kept my 1DmkIV as it feels like it will go on forever, keep the ISO low and it'll still hold its own. Looking forward to getting out with it again in the new year.


This is actually consistent with my own findings. It was not until the absolute latest AF system, that to date is found only in the 1DXII and 5D4, that Canon finally offered this new and startling different T-Con ability. We get AF in all points @ f/8 and the slowing down that was programed in is gone. In many this way the 5D4 AF is superior to the 1Dx,. ( it trails only in out and out AF speed and tracking due to the 1Dx's additional processing power). But the 1DxII / 5D4 af stands alone in this new ability to work with the T-cons.


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Dec 27, 2017 04:50 |  #696

CyberDyneSystems wrote in post #18526792 (external link)
This is actually consistent with my own findings. It was not until the absolute latest AF system, that to date is found only in the 1DXII and 5D4, that Canon finally offered this new and startling different T-Con ability. We get AF in all points @ f/8 and the slowing down that was programed in is gone. In many this way the 5D4 AF is superior to the 1Dx,. ( it trails only in out and out AF speed and tracking due to the 1Dx's additional processing power). But the 1DxII / 5D4 af stands alone in this new ability to work with the T-cons.

Interesting. I wouldn't buy a 1Dx II, the only real world advantages it appears to have over the 5D mk IV are faster fps rate and better battery life. Against that it costs about 50% more than the 5D (in the UK), it's a lot heavier and the files it generates are smaller than the 5D. So for me, no contest.




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Dec 27, 2017 05:02 |  #697

graham121 wrote in post #18526288 (external link)
Great Egret, landscape crop from original portrait format image.

I am liking how it plays with with the 2X EFIII.

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Very crispy, even with the 2x.

My 2xIII stays at home for the most part. While the images are usable, I find that being closer to the subject and not needing it is better for my shooting. Now, if I am physically unable to approach a subject (over water, for example), the TC naturally comes along.

As for the 1DX II, I almost bought one last year, but cancelled my order. The 5D4 does everything I need, and the 1DX II lacks things that I've come to want: wireless, full touch screen, less bulk, better cropability. The only thing I wonder about is the slightly better AF performance and faster lens drive that the X provides, and the 14FPS, but then I realize I don't do action stuff and won't benefit from these things.


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Dec 28, 2017 00:06 |  #698

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Dec 28, 2017 03:37 |  #699

Nice pictures, love the Zebra.

As much as I love my 5D4 the 1DX2 is awesome and some, it's speed (not just the FPS) is something else, the 500ii is such a wonderful lens, when used with the the 1DX2 it's a dream, for those who wonder about the 1DX2 it takes time to see the advantages, after a year for me it's clear the 5D4 has its limitations, and it's there (in that small zone) you find the 1DX2 has the advantage, taking images where light and AF are a challenge is the only place to compare the two. I never pick the 5D4 over the 1DX2, I even choose the 1D for studio stuff as it's such a dream camera, the way it renders an image. Even it's power up from standby is ultra fast, with photography most measurements are with fractions of a second, such small amounts of time are hard to see as a human who counts life in years, but when time matters and ISO noise is an issue the 1D wins hands down, as for files, I'd say the 1DX2 files are a dream to work with, the 5D4 files are much the same as the Mk3, not saying they are poor in any way and they are better than the Mk3 but when editing for me they just have that magic.




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Dec 28, 2017 04:19 |  #700

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Some very dramatic light in this shot, with the dark mountains in the background, and the smallest of catch light in the zebra's eye. Beautiful.

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Nice pictures, love the Zebra.

As much as I love my 5D4 the 1DX2 is awesome and some, it's speed (not just the FPS) is something else, the 500ii is such a wonderful lens, when used with the the 1DX2 it's a dream, for those who wonder about the 1DX2 it takes time to see the advantages, after a year for me it's clear the 5D4 has its limitations, and it's there (in that small zone) you find the 1DX2 has the advantage, taking images where light and AF are a challenge is the only place to compare the two. I never pick the 5D4 over the 1DX2, I even choose the 1D for studio stuff as it's such a dream camera, the way it renders an image. Even it's power up from standby is ultra fast, with photography most measurements are with fractions of a second, such small amounts of time are hard to see as a human who counts life in years, but when time matters and ISO noise is an issue the 1D wins hands down, as for files, I'd say the 1DX2 files are a dream to work with, the 5D4 files are much the same as the Mk3, not saying they are poor in any way and they are better than the Mk3 but when editing for me they just have that magic.

Arthur, do you mind, you aren't helping me prop up my shaky justifications for not buying a 1DX2  :p I really want to see how the 500 + 1DX2 get along.


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Dec 28, 2017 06:35 |  #701

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Arthur, do you mind, you aren't helping me prop up my shaky justifications for not buying a 1DX2  :p I really want to see how the 500 + 1DX2 get along.

Well you won't like my findings either after using both bodies on the 500 today, native and with either TC!

Resistance is futile!


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Jan 03, 2018 15:10 |  #702

Roan Antelope. Spotted this beauty in early morning golden light in Mokal National Park.

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Jan 06, 2018 18:58 |  #703

Certainly loving my 1DX2/500 II combo.. It's funny, graham121 inspired me to go for the 500/II and I inspired him to ditch his 7D2 for a DX2 :)

I used to shoot with a sigma 150-600 and while that was a good training lens, the 500II is absolutely astonishingly better in every conceivable way. The micro-contrast/sharpness is so good and even when used with a 2x extender, it doesn't loose much clarity.

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Jan 09, 2018 15:10 |  #704

A miracle happened. A ruby-crowned kinglet actually sat still for more than a second, allowing me to get a few shots off. It was a first for me, being able to photograph this perpetually moving bird.

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Jan 09, 2018 16:27 |  #705

Talk about filling the frame with a small subject! Nice shots of such an adorable little fella.


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