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Jan 01, 2018 20:27 as a reply to post 18531268 |  #241

There are 3 different comparison modes in the upper right that you can select between, and you can also change the lighting to do a low light comparison.


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Jan 02, 2018 01:25 |  #242

It will be interesting to see how the recent Nikon restructuring will alter its results in the Imaging business segment. In its most recent full year financial report, for FY2016, Imaging contributed 170Million yen in revenues for FY2016. In the current fiscal year (ends in March) revenues are flat compared to prior year.


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Jan 02, 2018 08:09 as a reply to Wilt's post |  #243

I would go with Canon, simply because I've been shooting with Canon gear since the mid 70's. It's what I'm most comfortable with...


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Jan 02, 2018 09:32 |  #244

Road Dog wrote in post #18531519 (external link)
I would go with Canon, simply because I've been shooting with Canon gear since the mid 70's. It's what I'm most comfortable with...

Similar with me. Nikon. Staying with the mount. Since there's competition, we all benefit from the improvements. I still hold MF close to my heart though. Cameras have always outperformed most of us. In a way, we are all beginners...


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Jan 02, 2018 13:36 |  #245

I would say that the choice between the 5DMkIV and the D850 really depends on how each camera feels in your hands, and how comfortable you are with the controls, dials, and menu options. Whichever camera you feel more comfortable shooting, will be the camera you will enjoy taking out for photography. All the specifications and comparisons between both camera bodies are irrelevant. In the next couple of years, Canon will come out with a 5DMkV that will blow Nikon's D850 away, after which Nikon will bring out a D950 to blow Canon's 5DMkV away. Both companies will continue to one-up each other with newer cameras, as they have been doing since the early 2000s, when the first digital SLRs came on the market.

Pick the camera you like the most, and have fun shooting with it.


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Jan 02, 2018 16:32 |  #246

For me it is the lenses. Only Canon and Nikon make the lenses that I want/use and Canon do them better so it's just a matter of what camera body fits! So it has to be Canon bodies for me.

Were my uses different then the D850 looks VERY nice - but, for my uses, of little importance until Nikon SuperTele lenses catch up and reduce in price.

Remember this is just for my uses!


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Jan 02, 2018 21:03 |  #247

I love Nikon body but Canon lens!

Is it possible to build a Body (Nikon) with generic dials with customizable function apps
Like handphone, with configurable apps and customizable placement.

then insert any sensor (Sony, etc) of your preference like a SD card

and add the lens (Canon, etc) of your choice! Like putting on a handphone cover....

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Jan 02, 2018 21:06 as a reply to Ah-keong's post |  #248

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What is a handphone? . Is that like a cell phone or something?

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Jan 02, 2018 21:10 |  #249

Ah-keong wrote in post #18532112 (external link)
I love Nikon body but Canon lens!

Is it possible to build a Body (Nikon) with generic dials with customizable function apps
Like handphone, with configurable apps and customizable placement.

then insert any sensor (Sony, etc) of your preference like a SD card

and add the lens (Canon, etc) of your choice! Like putting on a handphone cover....

 :p

Just adapt Canon glass to a sony mirrorless body.

All the buttons and wheels on a sony body can be custom mapped to whatever function you want so you can basically replicate the controls of the nikon bodies.

My custom button setup still closely resembles Canons button placement because that's where I came and what I'm most familiar with.


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Jan 02, 2018 21:45 |  #250

Tom Reichner wrote in post #18532115 (external link)
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What is a handphone? . Is that like a cell phone or something?

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Yup. It is a cell phone.


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Jan 02, 2018 21:49 |  #251

mystik610 wrote in post #18532117 (external link)
Just adapt Canon glass to a sony mirrorless body.

All the buttons and wheels on a sony body can be custom mapped to whatever function you want so you can basically replicate the controls of the nikon bodies.

My custom button setup still closely resembles Canons button placement because that's where I came and what I'm most familiar with.

agree, currently that's the closest way via adaptors.

I hope one day, there would be one such product.

When there is a new sensor, just upgrade the sensor unit and slot in like a SD card or film in the film days. I believe the sensor is the most expensive component of the camera body.

When there is new stuff (AF sensor, processor, touchscreen), time to upgrade the cell phone!


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Jan 03, 2018 00:03 |  #252

A bit late to chip in now, but, I'd not get either...I'd opt for the 5DSR.

...just saying...




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Jan 03, 2018 05:34 |  #253

STICKY2 wrote in post #18532216 (external link)
A bit late to chip in now, but, I'd not get either...I'd opt for the 5DSR.

...just saying...

a high res body with only 12 stops of dynamic range.....just saying....


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Jan 03, 2018 05:51 |  #254

Ah-keong wrote in post #18532145 (external link)
agree, currently that's the closest way via adaptors.

I hope one day, there would be one such product.

When there is a new sensor, just upgrade the sensor unit and slot in like a SD card or film in the film days. I believe the sensor is the most expensive component of the camera body.

When there is new stuff (AF sensor, processor, touchscreen), time to upgrade the cell phone!

The sensor makes up most of the cost of the camera, so if you're getting a new sensor, you might as well get a new body.

I like the modular concept though...interchangeab​le lens cameras are designed to be modular after all. I particularly like the modularity of mirrorless bodies because yes some of the lenses are huge, but once you mount a small lens to them, they are legitimately more compact set-ups. So with a single body I can have a nice compact set-up when I want that, and can attach the big lenses, grips/extensions, for 'serious' shooting. I'd like to see this concept taken further. It'd be nice if there were a barebones small mirrorless body (leica M sized) that can be mounted to a 'pro' mount with an EVF, deeper grip and more controls. Sort of like the grip extension on steroids. So you can have something super minimalistic when shooting casually, but all of the ergonomics and controls of a DSLR when you want that.


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Jan 03, 2018 08:16 |  #255

mystik610 wrote in post #18532327 (external link)
The sensor makes up most of the cost of the camera, so if you're getting a new sensor, you might as well get a new body.

I like the modular concept though...interchangeab​le lens cameras are designed to be modular after all. I particularly like the modularity of mirrorless bodies because yes some of the lenses are huge, but once you mount a small lens to them, they are legitimately more compact set-ups. So with a single body I can have a nice compact set-up when I want that, and can attach the big lenses, grips/extensions, for 'serious' shooting. I'd like to see this concept taken further. It'd be nice if there were a barebones small mirrorless body (leica M sized) that can be mounted to a 'pro' mount with an EVF, deeper grip and more controls. Sort of like the grip extension on steroids. So you can have something super minimalistic when shooting casually, but all of the ergonomics and controls of a DSLR when you want that.

Like the old Leica Visoflex, I am sure it could be done now in a very slick implementation.


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