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Jan 08, 2018 21:02 |  #7141

Maureen Souza wrote in post #18536614 (external link)
So has anybody used this lens on the 5D4 with a 1.4 teleconverter? If so, post some pictures please. That will be my next test after the rains clear out...maybe this weekend.

I have, it is a good combo.

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Jan 08, 2018 21:22 |  #7142

Maureen Souza wrote in post #18536614 (external link)
So has anybody used this lens on the 5D4 with a 1.4 teleconverter? If so, post some pictures please. That will be my next test after the rains clear out...maybe this weekend.

I always use my 1DX2 with the 100-400 II + 1.4x III because the 1DX2 images are better than the 5D4. However, the 5D4 is significantly better than the 7D2 (with the possible exception of Pondrader, of course). I took a few quick shots tonight of Scooter with the 5D4 just to see how he looked. Ed's photos are better than these, but these might be helpful as well.

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A 100% crop around his left eye:

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Jan 09, 2018 10:51 |  #7143

Maureen Souza wrote in post #18536614 (external link)
So has anybody used this lens on the 5D4 with a 1.4 teleconverter? If so, post some pictures please. That will be my next test after the rains clear out...maybe this weekend.

Here's one from last summer:

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Jan 09, 2018 11:02 |  #7144

Maureen Souza wrote in post #18536614 (external link)
So has anybody used this lens on the 5D4 with a 1.4 teleconverter? If so, post some pictures please. That will be my next test after the rains clear out...maybe this weekend.

My 1.4xIII is glued to my 5dIV 100-400 II combo! I've posted lots on this thread of the combo, works wonderfully, but it does come down to lighting/atmosphere/te​chnique like everything. Center point focus is my go-to 90% of the time, using the most contrast area near the birds eye in bad light helps immensely and also pressing the shutter button halfway down to make sure you do indeed have proper focus rather than the spray n pray as it won't always refocus correctly in those cases, sometimes it does/sometimes it doesn't.

For me, I simply enjoy the editing process much better on full frame over crops, but I've not used the newer 80d, and lets hope this alleged 7dmkiii has the same or better efficiency as the 5dIV, and that will prove to be probably the go-to for bird chasing.




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Jan 09, 2018 11:32 |  #7145

markesc wrote in post #18537092 (external link)
My 1.4xIII is glued to my 5dIV 100-400 II combo! I've posted lots on this thread of the combo, works wonderfully, but it does come down to lighting/atmosphere/te​chnique like everything. Center point focus is my go-to 90% of the time, using the most contrast area near the birds eye in bad light helps immensely and also pressing the shutter button halfway down to make sure you do indeed have proper focus rather than the spray n pray as it won't always refocus correctly in those cases, sometimes it does/sometimes it doesn't.

For me, I simply enjoy the editing process much better on full frame over crops, but I've not used the newer 80d, and lets hope this alleged 7dmkiii has the same or better efficiency as the 5dIV, and that will prove to be probably the go-to for bird chasing.

I'm interested to know what you like better about processing the 5DIV Mark ??

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Jan 09, 2018 13:06 |  #7146

Thanks...I will give it a whirl this weekend. Pictures look great!


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Jan 09, 2018 14:21 |  #7147

Maureen, you might want to check out these from the early days of the 5D4 testing;

http://photography-on-the.net ...showthread.php?p=18​140093
http://photography-on-the.net .../showthread.php?t=1​467725


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Jan 09, 2018 18:49 |  #7148

Here is is a crop from that combo. Bird from bottom left hand corner.

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Jan 09, 2018 18:50 |  #7149

That combo is sharp

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Jan 09, 2018 23:01 |  #7151

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It just seems to have a lot less noise than my 70d with the bare 100-400 combo, even though I'm giving up a stop via an F8 setup on the 5dIV, the files just clean up easier. There's always exceptions, but overall I have found more enjoyment with the MKIV. I think though for birds/action, the new 7dIII should swing things the other direction in favor of the crop body again (I wouldn't mind having some more speed and 1.6 vs 1.4, that whole endless debate!).

I can only add that really it's been a lot of trial/error process, and both combos can nail the same shots, but I always found myself sticking with the 5div setup.




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Jan 09, 2018 23:15 |  #7152

Maureen Souza wrote in post #18536614 (external link)
So has anybody used this lens on the 5D4 with a 1.4 teleconverter? If so, post some pictures please. That will be my next test after the rains clear out...maybe this weekend.

Here is the above combo with a "12mm Canon Extension Tube" between the 5D Mk IV and Extender EF x1.4 Mk III / 100-400 Mk II to allow closer focus.

It was really useful to have all the AF points available.

These Eastern Sedge Frogs are 20-25mm long (approx. 1 inch in imperial units).

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Jan 10, 2018 00:05 |  #7153

ISO 32,000 with the 5D4 and 1.4 III

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Jan 10, 2018 01:24 as a reply to CyberDyneSystems's post |  #7154

Thanks Jake. I was thinking that for my Yellowstone trip I would use the 100-400mm lens on the 7D2 & use my 24-70mm lens of the 5D4. So far I have been really happy with those combinations but I haven’t thrown on the 1.4 converter yet & was wondering if that affected the performance of the lens. I also haven’t put the 100-400 lens on my 5D4 body yet.

So many decisions......:rolleyes:


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Jan 10, 2018 03:26 |  #7155

markesc wrote in post #18537585 (external link)
It just seems to have a lot less noise than my 70d with the bare 100-400 combo, even though I'm giving up a stop via an F8 setup on the 5dIV, the files just clean up easier. There's always exceptions, but overall I have found more enjoyment with the MKIV. I think though for birds/action, the new 7dIII should swing things the other direction in favor of the crop body again (I wouldn't mind having some more speed and 1.6 vs 1.4, that whole endless debate!).

I can only add that really it's been a lot of trial/error process, and both combos can nail the same shots, but I always found myself sticking with the 5div setup.

The 1Dx2/80D/5D4 introduced some new sensor tech from Canon, and it's a significant step up from previous bodies. At low ISO levels the 80D absolutely destroyed my 5D3 for dynamic range; any pushing of exposures (such as lifting shadows) in post was much better from 80D files than the 5D3.

The noise character from these new sensors is also much better *. Whilst quantitatively it's (from memory) about 1/3 stop better, qualitatively it's much less visually objectionable; so I found there's nearly a 1 stop improvement in "real world" use at high ISO between the 5D3 and 5D4.

Comparing the 80D to the 60D and original 7D (I don't have the 70D) I'd say the high ISO noise was at least 1 stop better on the 80D.

It makes sense then that a 5D4 shot (either cropped by 1.6x, or shot one stop "darker" with a 1.4x TC) would look better than the 70D.


* I think the 7D2 has some of this too; though not the dynamic range improvements


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