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If ancient 30D is still good enough for National Geographic why upgrade your camera?

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Dec 22, 2017 19:09 |  #226

Tom Reichner wrote in post #18515092 (external link)
You are both right on the money.

NG uses my photos somewhat regularly in various different publications. Several years ago, I "upgraded" from using a 50D / 5Dc combination to using a 1D Mark 4. . Yet NG still, to this day, uses many of the photos that I took years ago with the 50D and the 5Dc.

So why did I upgrade? . Well, sure, I could sometimes take a picture good enough for NG with the 5Dc or the 50D - when the animals weren't moving around too rapidly, or when there was enough light. . But the 1D Mark 4 allows me to take MORE photos that are good enough for NG. . There used to be situations at dusk when I just couldn't get a good photo, but now in those same situations I can get a good enough photo with my 1D4. . Better gear increases the total number of photos I can get during the course of a day. . Many of the 1D4 photos that I sell could not have been taken with the 50D or the 5D.

The goal isn't to take a photo that is "good enough" for NG. . The goal is to license as many photos as possible to NG (and other publishers), so that one can have a continuous flow of income from such sales. . So one really needs a huge ____load of photos that are good enough for NG, and one typically demands of one's self to produce such photos every time one heads out with the camera.

These days, I often have encounters with wildlife and can't get a "good enough" photo, because my 1D4 simply isn't up to the task. So I will soon upgrade again, either to a 5D4 or a 1Dx. Why? So that I can take better pictures? Not really. Rather, so that I can take pictures of the same quality, but in worse conditions.


I think that I understand what you mean.

Often times, the gear we have does not have enough resolution. . And the high ISO performance isn't good enough. . But we should identify the weak link in our gear and assess the gear according to the specific uses that we have in mind for our work. . Upgrading specifically to get more resolution doesn't make any sense if we are only going to make little 16" by 20" prints, and upgrading for better high ISO performance is unnecessary if we are always using artificial lighting and shooting static subjects. . We should have good, logical reasons for upgrading, and fully understand exactly what the upgrade will do for our imagery.


I hate to quote the whole post but it does allow people to know to whom I'm addressing my own post.

Tom, I'm with you on this though I have taken what I believe to be very interesting photographs with my 1D IV. The files have a certain look that I enjoy.

However, like you, I have run up against some limitations when the sun is setting. I'm not a professional like you are so perhaps it shouldn't matter to me, but it does.

I'm going to find a way over the next couple years to upgrade to a 1D X Mkii. From what I've read, it's quite a leap from the 1D X Mark 1, let alone our 1D IV's. Prices will continue to drop and eventually, a 1D X Mark iii will be out.

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Dec 23, 2017 21:31 |  #227

I love the old cameras...I still use my Nikon D200 for all types of work, including weddings, and haven't had one bit of problem. Those older cameras were built to last, that's for sure.

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Dec 28, 2017 02:47 |  #228

saea501 wrote in post #18514790 (external link)
I've been a NatGeo member since the late 60s and have always loved their photography.

However.....when you look closely at the pictures in the magazine, and at the same time, if you consider the truly great quality of most of the pictures posted here and what gets heavily critiqued here, many of NatGeo's pictures would be lambasted as being out of focus, noisy and suffering from lens distortion.

Maybe that should provide some healthy perspective for us.

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Jan 25, 2018 20:44 |  #229

But however are the big brands going to make more money off of you, if your OK with your older model? You MUST UPGRADE to be considered legit. Congrats! on the picture. Nice shot, and Ill bet that was some special moment for you.

If you dont mind my asking, did they request to purchase the rights of the image?

Why don't you take a picture, it will last longer....
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