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50mm 1.2 or 100mm 2.8 IS Macro?

 
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Apr 09, 2018 12:30 |  #1

Opinions please? What is the real difference between two photos taken with these two lenses? I currently have a 50mm 1.4 and have a choice between upgrading to the 1.2 or the macro, however I can't find anything that differs between the two lens. Please enlighten a newbie. Thank you.




  
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Apr 09, 2018 21:31 |  #2

the two lens is for two separate purposes.

if you like the "signature" render of the f/1,2L, then the 50mm is cool.

if you are looking into macro, then the 100mm f/2,8L IS USM is great.

if you are OK with Manual Focus, you may want to consider the Zeiss 100mm f/2 Makro-Planar ZE :p


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Apr 10, 2018 05:49 |  #3

jhaywald wrote in post #18603135 (external link)
Opinions please? What is the real difference between two photos taken with these two lenses? I currently have a 50mm 1.4 and have a choice between upgrading to the 1.2 or the macro, however I can't find anything that differs between the two lens. Please enlighten a newbie. Thank you.

As mentioned, these are two very different lenses. Only you can answer the question posed. Do you need another 50mm large-aperture lens? Do you need a macro lens? I don't see any issues with owning both.


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Apr 10, 2018 06:47 as a reply to  @ Bassat's post |  #4

So again, stupid question, are you not able to take close up, almost macro shots with a 50mm?




  
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Apr 10, 2018 07:32 |  #5

jhaywald wrote in post #18603755 (external link)
So again, stupid question, are you not able to take close up, almost macro shots with a 50mm?

For a good answer to this, YOU will need to define 'almost'. Both of the 50mm lenses have a MM (maximum magnification) ration of 0.15. The DEFINITION of macro is a MM of 1. To explain in a way most anyone can understand, think of it this way:

Both lenses at minimum focus distance.
With the 100mm macro lens, you can fill a (full frame) frame vertically with one US quarter-dollar coin.
With either of the 50mm lenses you mention, you can get about 7 of those same coins in the frame.

NOTES: This was done with the 50 STM. It focuses about 30% CLOSER than the 50 1.2 or 50 1.4. Shot with crop camera 80D on the horizontal axis because that is about the same size as the full frame vertical axis.

Both of these are shot at minimum focus distance. First is 100mm macro. Second is 50mm STM. If this is 'almost' to you, then whichever lens you use is quite capable of close-up work.


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Apr 10, 2018 08:13 as a reply to  @ Bassat's post |  #6

YES!!!! This is exactly what I've been looking for to wrap my head around it!!!! Thank you soooooo much! Decision = Def need a macro lens in the bag.




  
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Apr 10, 2018 08:28 |  #7

Happy to help. The BEST way to do macro work is with a dedicated macro lens.

It is also the most expensive way. If cost is a factor for you, consider a close-up lens (screw into front threads of any lens), or a set of extension tubes. Both are much cheaper than a macro lens. Use close-ups on long(er) lenses, and tubes on shorter lenses. Another way is to buy a teleconverter, or TC (1.4x or 2.0x), for use between you lens and camera. The TC increases the focal length of a lens, without changing the minimum focus distance. Net result: larger subject in the viewfinder.

Far and away, the best answer to macro is a dedicated macro lens.


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Apr 10, 2018 21:07 as a reply to  @ Bassat's post |  #8

Nope, going to pick up a 100mm f2.8 L macro tomorrow. Thank you!!!




  
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Apr 13, 2018 16:55 |  #9

Good chose, my 100/2.8LIS is my go to lens when shooting food but the 50L is a close second.


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Apr 16, 2018 12:17 |  #10

I had both in the past. Difference was very obvious. Macro was great for products photography and newborn. It was also best Macro lens, because I was chasing moving creatures and IS with USM was unbeatable. But it is too technical lens for adults portraits and just general pictures.
1.2 was great reportage and portrait lens. Until its hold by glue plastic front crapped out and Canon never repaired it to normal condition.
IMO, 50 1.4 and 100L is good combo.


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