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airshow guys - prop freeze?

 
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Oct 26, 2006 09:02 |  #31

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Oct 27, 2006 01:29 |  #32

Daniel_B wrote in post #2142762 (external link)
250th is a good speed, but you can get away with 320th if you want to be on the safe side. Anything above this and you'll start to freeze the props and that doesn't look good. You could always go lower if you're confident with your panning of course!

How much blur you'll get depends on the aircraft as much as the shutter though - number of blades, RPM etc.

Here's one I took at 125th...

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This one was at 1/30th, and there's less blur than above because of the engine power setting/RPM...

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And as a rough guide, this one was taken at 320th...

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Oct 27, 2006 13:15 |  #33

First shot was a 20D with EF 75-300mm, second was 300D with 28-135mm IS and the last one was the 300D with the 75-300mm.




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Mar 07, 2007 14:31 |  #34

Daniel_B wrote in post #2142762 (external link)
250th is a good speed, but you can get away with 320th if you want to be on the safe side. Anything above this and you'll start to freeze the props and that doesn't look good. You could always go lower if you're confident with your panning of course!

How much blur you'll get depends on the aircraft as much as the shutter though - number of blades, RPM etc.


And as a rough guide, this one was taken at 320th...

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DROOL :p:rolleyes::D Freekin awesome.........


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Mar 07, 2007 14:55 |  #35

Marauder61 wrote in post #2832088external link
DROOL :p:rolleyes::D Freekin awesome.........

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Mar 08, 2007 18:22 |  #36

Have to say i am little surprised at the (my perception) of "spotters" and forums such as UKAR.

Havign made several contributions to UKAR and others, i personally do not see any peer pressure coming into play.
There are several photographers who are extremely capable and having met some of them found them to be very positive and helpful. As with any area of specific interest there will be those who come to the attention of others for the sheer enthusiasm they have to their chosen hobby, that said can't say i have come across any UKAR member who taken to rivet counting or such like.
I fully understand the points being made, i just think it was perhaps a little OTT and unjustified.
The true hobbyist/ airshow fan is pretty much taken for granted and has limited access and resources, airshows are primarily aimed at the general public, and lo and behold the public turn up on mass pitch the windbreakers and assorted day out kit without a second thought for anyone else.
The average enthusiast probably contends with kids that are bored and left to run around at will knocking into someone who's hard earned cash is sitting on the end of a decent camera.
As for the type of shots that have been commented about, i personally do not go to an airshow to shoot into the sun to see what dramatic shots i can get, i go for the most part to enjoy the demands of trying to get a nice sharp shot of a well lit aircraft performing.
That as with everyone is their decision om what to shoot and how.
If people don't like the "same view" shots then don't look at them.
At times i actually like to see the differences in what i have captured compared to others, it is a learning curve.
Photography for me isnt pleasing someone or bowing to peer pressure it is sheer enjoyment, if my shots are not good then i try and learn how to improve, one mans view of an image may be totally different to the next mans.


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Mar 11, 2007 07:09 as a reply to IMARLOW's post |  #37

Same aircraft.....same day......Canon 300D, 100-400L

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Guess you were around centre of runway, I was up right hand end.

Looks like you took your picture a few tenths of a second after me looking at the position of the undercarrage doors...:D


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Oct 28, 2008 03:50 |  #38

Beautiful shots John. I sorta spaced out the site at Airliners. Been a while.
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Talk about a great aircraft to shoot from with real glass vs the plexiglas of typical general aviation.
Not much beats the roar of radials. P-51C Mustang's, maybe.

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Oct 28, 2008 08:25 |  #39

Bookmarked for later.


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Oct 29, 2008 15:11 |  #40

I have to add a couple of my "prop blur" pics...

1/125th

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Nov 14, 2008 17:32 |  #41

A couple of prop blurs from me then.

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Jan 20, 2009 06:10 |  #42

hate to make you guys sick, but my uncle who i often shoot with handholds, with IS OFF, a 600 f/4 at 1/60....now that is sick...


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Jan 20, 2009 06:15 |  #43

Not sure if it´s been mentioned but it also depends on the aircraft being turbo prop or piston engined.
Turbo props can be shot at higher speeds then piston. But I try to stay around 1/250th or slower for all props and as fast as possible for jets.


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Jan 20, 2009 06:32 |  #44

I agree Peter, i tend to shoot between 1/60 (on approach) and 1/250...


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Jan 20, 2009 06:53 |  #45

nedwards wrote in post #7116137 (external link)
hate to make you guys sick, but my uncle who i often shoot with handholds, with IS OFF, a 600 f/4 at 1/60....now that is sick...

Yeah! my uncle does as well :D :D :D

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