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Do most pro's shoot Raw?

 
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Aug 24, 2007 10:39 |  #16

I shoot raw + Small jpeg, and I hardly ever need the raw unless I'm printing.


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Aug 24, 2007 12:25 |  #17

If I was still shooting for a newspaper: jpeg
Currently shooting portraits: RAW
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Aug 24, 2007 12:49 as a reply to Halliday's post |  #18

I don't know what most do........but I do.


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Aug 24, 2007 17:27 |  #19

I don't consider myself a PRO. But I do have a little photography business that I do generate some small income. Most of the time I try to shoot RAW especially when I have time to compose. But if the subject/occasion requires quick work, I shoot with jpg. RAW has superior tonal and colour production tho. But sometimes u gotta do what u gotta do.


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Aug 26, 2007 00:40 as a reply to delhi's post |  #20

The quick answer is that it depends. RAW should never be used as a crutch. Those photographers that say "get it close and then fix it in the RAW conversion" are doomed and headed for failure. Those that use RAW as a way of using the same shot for a variety of purposes are using it the way it was intended.

In reality if you can nail your exposure at the time of shooting there is no need for RAW. If I find that a jpg that I might have shot requires more work than I had anticipated the first thing that I do is save it as a TIF or PSD, do my work on it and then move it back to jpg. I have shots from my 1DMKII that were shot in JPG and then subsequently printed to 24X30 and the prints are awesome. It can be done.

I used to shoot all my weddings in RAW but now I do them in jpg. Very very rarely am I ever selling anything larger than 16X20 and for this size down jpg works just fine. It does require that we pay close attention to exposure at the time of shooting but this is really not that big of a deal.

I guess the short answer for me is it depends on what the deliverables are and the associated time line. If I have to deliver within 48 hours and there are lots of shots, I will go with jpg. If time is not of the essence then RAW will come into play.

With the ability to edit jpg's in ACR 4.1 it also becomes less of an issue. I don't have alot of options set in camera for the jpg. Much like a RAW file I will do my own post processing on these if I have to. My shooting is fairly consistent within any given shoot. I can sharpen the first image while recording the settings to an action. If that is all I have to do then I batch the balance of the shots with this action.

RAW is a great tool when used properly. I will always shoot JPG when I know that I can as there is a time saving element in it and even if one had the time why go through another routine if you don't have to.


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Aug 26, 2007 00:42 |  #21

Always. jpeg never.


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Aug 26, 2007 02:54 |  #22

Well, with this kind of photography- where you do the best you can and go home hoping for some keepers- raw. Yeah they take lots of space but you're probably only going to keep 4 or 5 from 30pics. Delete the craptastic ones and PS the 4-5 keepers.

Now, in important shots - say, that you're getting paid for- also shoot raw. Each one, or most, have to count and you need all the flexibility and "forgivness" the PP'ing will alot you.


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Aug 26, 2007 03:02 |  #23

No-one can speak for all Pro's; but it might help if you understand what RAW will give you.

Latitude for exposures and latitude for WB. Slightly improved colour depth.

A working pro should understand exposure well enough to not need that latitude.

So that just leaves the WB; if the job means working in varying lighting conditions, RAW will mean that you don't need to worry about WB at the time of shooting and can quickly fix it later. Therefore, shooting RAW is generally quicker for pro's on these jobs. That counts for ALL wedding photographers but very few others, not that all WPs shoot RAW, some have other ways they prefer to work.

The improved colour depth could be advantageous for 'fine art' shooters.


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Aug 26, 2007 03:05 |  #24

i've stuck to RAW from very early on. I like having my workflow and archive remain uniform - switching back and forth between JPG and RAW would throw a wrench in that. Even during the last few months while I have been shooting freelance as my sole source of income, I never find myself needing to speed up my workflow. My advice (as is probably posted a number of times around POTN) is to get the DAM book. I couldn't imagine keeping my photos organized without that system and it has greatly reduced the amount of time I take between downloading the photos from the CF card and delivering them in finished format.


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Aug 26, 2007 05:39 as a reply to jevidon's post |  #25

I think it really depends on what kind of photography you are doing ... I am a wildlife and nature photographer and I always shoot raw (ever since I started with raw capture about 10 years ago).

To me, the raw capture is very similar to the negative and I want the maximum capability to fine tune that medium when I am making my prints --- and only raw gives me that capability. It is not converted by what the camera thinks should be done, but I have the control to set it up the way I want and can save it as 16 bit and in a ProPhoto color space which gives me the maximum flexibility to work with the image. It is what has worked best for me over these past years.

In addition, as the software has improved I have been able to go back to my old files and pull out "better" prints from those old files / "negatives".

A different type of shooter / post processor my not feel the same way however, I just now this has worked great for me.


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Aug 26, 2007 06:13 |  #26

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Shoot in RAW as much as you can, keep plenty of CF cards though, and remember you can always salvage something from a RAW file but maybe not from a jpg. Light Room is fast and easy to use and makes processing RAW files faster than any other way (excluding Aperture) of course. As you take more photos you will work out when you can get away with just shooting jpg but for anything you do for a client RAW is the best protection for a successful outcome.

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Aug 26, 2007 07:39 as a reply to FotOz's post |  #28

Thanks for all the replies:)
When you say you get better colour depth with Raw does this mean the finished photo is printed from a Raw file or converted to jpeg still?
All the minilabs I have used only take jpegs.


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Aug 26, 2007 11:51 |  #29

Many press photographers shot JPEG for speed.


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Aug 26, 2007 14:02 |  #30
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all depends.. sometimes only .jpg somtiems only raw and othetimes raw+jpg

if its for print or if i want HQ i shot raw since 30D jpg only does 72dpi and i've had a test print made from 72dpi 11x14 and it was jaggy up close... so then i bumped it to 300dpi and took the size down and the difference was noticable. So thats my story and i'm sticking to eeeeeeeeeeeeeet!


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