A Beauty Dish Mod for Genesis/D-lites (and others) ...

tetrode · 16th of June 2008 (Mon)

Tell me this isn't sexy:

Several weeks ago I saw one of these Speedotron 22" reflectors on display at B&H. What caught my eye was the fact that the Speedotron mount was fastened to the dish with four small bolts. The mount itself looked like any other flanged speedring component with the exception of having four holes drilled in its periphery.

So, to adapt the dish to the Elinchrom mount:

1. Remove the 4 bolts (plus washers, lockwashers, and nuts) to release the Speedotron mount.

2. Get youself a suitable Elinchrom-compatible ring (in my case, I used the Norman ring I had on hand).

3. Clamp the Speedotron and the new ring together flange-to-flange like so:

4. Using the existing holes in the Speedotron ring as a guide, drill 4 holes in the Elinchrom ring:

5. The hard part is now done! Bolt your newly perforated Elinchrom mount to the back of the Speedotron dish:

6. Done! Now mount it to the light and admire your handiwork:

Some other views:

So, that's it. The Speedotron dish is $124 at B&H and a Norman Elinchrom-compatible ring is about $19. Resist the urge to get the $10 SP ring; its diameter is too small for this application.

And before anyone asks, yes, the Calumet modeling light most definitely is a problem (again).

Dave F.

shooterman · 16th of June 2008 (Mon)

I expected to see the modeling light poking a hole through the diffusion disk, LOL.

Great work tetrode!

TMR Design · 16th of June 2008 (Mon)

Once again, very nice work Dave. Good mod.

When will you have a chance to test it out and show some images?

tetrode · 16th of June 2008 (Mon)

Quote:

Originally Posted by shooterman

I expected to see the modeling light poking a hole through the diffusion disk, LOL.

Great work tetrode!

You jest but if I hadn't switched over to my shorter replacement bulb, it would have.

Dave F.

hawk911 · 16th of June 2008 (Mon)

yes- samples please. BTW- I'll go broke on all the accessories I want.

Lotto · 16th of June 2008 (Mon)

Very sexy!

Dave came through again with another modification.

tetrode · 16th of June 2008 (Mon)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lotto

Very sexy!

Dave came through again with another modification.

A compliment from the modmeister himself! I'm blushing

(but appreciative).

Thanks, Lotto.

Dave F.

TMR Design · 16th of June 2008 (Mon)

Hey Dave,
Can we see an image of the light produced by the dish to see how even it is and if there are smooth gradations?

tetrode · 16th of June 2008 (Mon)

Quote:

Originally Posted by TMR Design

Hey Dave,
Can we see an image of the light produced by the dish to see how even it is and if there are smooth gradations?

Of course, Robert. As soon as I can. I'm as curious as you.

Dave F.

DavidPhoto · 16th of June 2008 (Mon)

Pretty nice. Someone else did one like this with the Hensel dish. Check it out on eBay

slivr · 16th of June 2008 (Mon)

You're right, Dave - that's sexy and can't wait to see results!!!

- Jason S

tetrode · 16th of June 2008 (Mon)

Quote:

Originally Posted by DavidPhoto

Pretty nice. Someone else did one like this with the Hensel dish. Check it out on eBay

I saw that eBay listing several days ago. It looks like that Hensel dish has had a hard life.

Dave F.

DavidPhoto · 16th of June 2008 (Mon)

Quote:

Originally Posted by tetrode

I saw that eBay listing several days ago. It looks like that Hensel dish has had a hard life.

Dave F.

"The dish has some usual dings..." gotta love that. It looks like it fell outta his car and bounced down the road!

Hatch1921 · 16th of June 2008 (Mon)

Very nice mod! I have the Ranger RX AS on the way... looking at adding a dish and this would work great!

Here are the links on B&H if anyone is interested...

http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/produc...Reflector.html

http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/produc...linchrome.html

Thanks again,.
Hatch

tetrode · 16th of June 2008 (Mon)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hatch1921

Very nice mod! I have the Ranger RX AS on the way... looking at adding a dish and this would work great!

Here are the links on B&H if anyone is interested...

http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/produc...Reflector.html

http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/produc...linchrome.html

Thanks again,.
Hatch

You've got the right dish, Hatch, but the wrong ring. The SP ring will not work. I have one; I know. The diameter is too small to allow drilling the 4 required holes where they need to be. The Norman ring is what you want:

http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/produc...apter_for.html

Show up for a shoot wih your Ranger RX and Speedotron dish and you'll have your models swooning for sure.

Dave F.

16th of June 2008 (Mon)	#1
tetrode I am a walking repository of thoroughly useless information Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: New York Posts: 3,501	A Beauty Dish Mod for Genesis/D-lites (and others) ... Tell me this isn't sexy: Several weeks ago I saw one of these Speedotron 22" reflectors on display at B&H. What caught my eye was the fact that the Speedotron mount was fastened to the dish with four small bolts. The mount itself looked like any other flanged speedring component with the exception of having four holes drilled in its periphery. So, to adapt the dish to the Elinchrom mount: 1. Remove the 4 bolts (plus washers, lockwashers, and nuts) to release the Speedotron mount. 2. Get youself a suitable Elinchrom-compatible ring (in my case, I used the Norman ring I had on hand). 3. Clamp the Speedotron and the new ring together flange-to-flange like so: 4. Using the existing holes in the Speedotron ring as a guide, drill 4 holes in the Elinchrom ring: 5. The hard part is now done! Bolt your newly perforated Elinchrom mount to the back of the Speedotron dish: 6. Done! Now mount it to the light and admire your handiwork: Some other views: So, that's it. The Speedotron dish is $124 at B&H and a Norman Elinchrom-compatible ring is about $19. Resist the urge to get the $10 SP ring; its diameter is too small for this application. And before anyone asks, yes, the Calumet modeling light most definitely is a problem (again). Dave F. Last edited by tetrode : 6th of July 2008 (Sun) at 09:15. Reason: Belated correction of spelling rr

16th of June 2008 (Mon)	#2
shooterman village idiot, actually a genius! Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Laguna Hills, CA Posts: 1,269	Re: A Beauty Dish Mod for Genesis/D-lites (and others) ... I expected to see the modeling light poking a hole through the diffusion disk, LOL. Great work tetrode! __________________ Randy ModelMayhem

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TMR Design Cream of the Crop Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Huntington Station, NY Posts: 23,863	Re: A Beauty Dish Mod for Genesis/D-lites (and others) ... Once again, very nice work Dave. Good mod. When will you have a chance to test it out and show some images? __________________ Please call me Robert or Rob, not TMR Gear List & Feedback \| My Online Portfolio "Art is the elimination of the unnecessary." - Pablo Picasso

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hawk911 Cream of the Crop Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Racine, Wisconsin Posts: 10,407 IMAGE EDITING OK	Re: A Beauty Dish Mod for Genesis/D-lites (and others) ... yes- samples please. BTW- I'll go broke on all the accessories I want. __________________ HAWK Photography Gallery FB Fan page \|_My gear: 5D & 40D (gripped), 580exII, 550ex, Canon 24-70 L & 85 f1.8, Sigma 24-70 & 70-200 f2.8, Kit 18-55, Sigma 1.4xtc; Elinchrom Whore, Cacti, Interfit triggers, Speedotron BD and Kacey Grid, Explorer XT battery

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Lotto Goldmember Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Southern California Posts: 2,425 IMAGE EDITING OK	Re: A Beauty Dish Mod for Genesis/D-lites (and others) ... Very sexy! Dave came through again with another modification. __________________ 5D, 24-70L, 70-200L IS, 50 f1.4, 100 Macro, 580 & 430EX

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DavidPhoto Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: MA, USA Posts: 771 IMAGE EDITING OK	Re: A Beauty Dish Mod for Genesis/D-lites (and others) ... Pretty nice. Someone else did one like this with the Hensel dish. Check it out on eBay

16th of June 2008 (Mon)	#11
slivr Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Reno / Lake Tahoe - Nevada, USA Posts: 626 IMAGE EDITING OK	Re: A Beauty Dish Mod for Genesis/D-lites (and others) ... You're right, Dave - that's sexy and can't wait to see results!!! - Jason S __________________ - Jason S. More gear and money than talent ... but workin' at it!

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Hatch1921 Cream of the Crop Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Phoenix AZ Posts: 6,804	Re: A Beauty Dish Mod for Genesis/D-lites (and others) ... Very nice mod! I have the Ranger RX AS on the way... looking at adding a dish and this would work great! Here are the links on B&H if anyone is interested... http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/produc...Reflector.html http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/produc...linchrome.html Thanks again,. Hatch __________________ NEW SITE Lighting Diagrams and more

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