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With the price points crossing, the 1DS Mark II is the new competitor to the 5D Mark II. The 1DS2 was released at $7,000 street price and can now be had on the used market for $2500, the same as the new 5D2. Which is more important to you?

- 21mp, 1080p video, higher ISO, more megapixels on the same size sensor, smaller body, bigger screen

or

- 16.7mp, pro build, 2.8 cross-type AF sensors off-center, 1/250 sync, dual card slots, 100% VF, a shutter that sounds like a well oiled machine (chukka-shunthh is the sound it makes)


...


If they're both a similar size and weight (with grip) and both the same price... I know which one I'd go for. The poor fellow who sold this one to me lost $1000 over selling it just a month or two ago (Thanks, Matt!). I'd post some samples but it has been dark the whole time I've had it...!


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Who else has skipped the 5D2 now that the 1DS2 has dropped like a rock?

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congratulation! i'll be watching this thread

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Excellent buy. It is a FANTASTIC camera body!

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I love the 1DS MII. Its a great camera that seems like many forget about. Its like the tougher big brother to the 5D. I still use a 1DS too. Love the colors out of the original a little better but the MII gets the job done when higher ISO is needed. And yes... that shutter has a sound of its own.

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other than HIGH ISO and weight, i can't think of a single reason not to get the 1DsmkII over the 5DmkII :)

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nightlife-shooter wrote in post #6804519external link
I love the 1DS MII. Its a great camera that seems like many forget about. Its like the tougher big brother to the 5D. I still use a 1DS too. Love the colors out of the original a little better but the MII gets the job done when higher ISO is needed. And yes... that shutter has a sound of its own.

Thanks guys, I'm looking forward to some light today so I can actually see some decent files. I wasn't thrilled with my first view of ISO 800 indoors but then I realized I'm looking at almost 17 megapixels and not 12 any more and that I can't compare 100% to 100%. I will miss the high ISO of the new bodies; guess I'll have to get a fast wide prime again...

The shutter has a great tactile feel. It almost seems like it has 3 spots as you push it down -- the first to lock AE (or start AF), the next stop takes one photo, and keep pressing a little more and it feels like it hits the "continuous" mode. Very nice. I like it better than the 1D3 I've borrowed, I could barely stop it from firing continuously every time.

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Nice Hoff. I went for the 1DIII instead of the 5DII, with similar reasoning to yours.
It will be interesting to see how the 1DsII works out for you.

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Congrats on the new camera, Hoff!

blonde wrote in post #6804540external link
other than HIGH ISO and weight, i can't think of a single reason not to get the 1DsmkII over the 5DmkII :)

Yeah, that's what pretty much kept me in 5D territory over 1Ds. Even with the price of 1Ds MKIII's coming down I was a little tempted, but the lack of native high ISO just keeps it from making it a good choice for me.

I'm definitely interested to see what Canon will do with the MKIV's. While I probably won't be able to afford them when they come out, maybe in a couple years I'll have outgrown my 5D and be able to make a switch.

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Hate to sound like a broken record, but how is high iso noise on the mkII full framer? It doesn't have to be ground breaking but is it at least comparable to 40D/50D noise?

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My 1N has a new partner...

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Cost for two Canon 1-series professional bodies? $2650.

Waiting until they are "obsolete"... priceless.

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I really cant decide between the two. I want the high ISO of the 5DII, and the AF of the 1-series.

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epatt250 wrote in post #6804694external link
Hate to sound like a broken record, but how is high iso noise on the mkII full framer? It doesn't have to be ground breaking but is it at least comparable to 40D/50D noise?

I'll do some tests once the sun comes up and lights the clouds that are perpetutally in front of it... I need ISO 100 to have any comparisons and I can't get that indoors. I don't have an L-bracket for it yet or a tripod with a screw-mount...

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epatt250 wrote in post #6804694external link
Hate to sound like a broken record, but how is high iso noise on the mkII full framer? It doesn't have to be ground breaking but is it at least comparable to 40D/50D noise?

i found the ISO to be pretty good to be honest. sure it isn't a 1DmkIII or 5D but 1600 is usable if you are careful and even pushed, you can get a good result (always expose to the right!!!).

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JAcosta wrote in post #6804727external link
I really cant decide between the two. I want the high ISO of the 5DII, and the AF of the 1-series.

I weighed that as it was my primary decision, too. I figured I'd rather have better performance for the 90% of my images that are made in good light rather than the 10% that are done in low-light. I also weighed the possibility that focusing in that low-light would be even more frustrating than with the Classic since you can technically shoot in it and get an exposure but nailing the focus off-center is another question. I'd rather have focused but noisy over a cleaner file that is OOF.

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other than HIGH ISO and weight, i can't think of a single reason not to get the 1DsmkII over the 5DmkII

I agree with this. In addition, I think the video would be a negative for me (paying for something I would NEVER use)

I think that the 5DmkII current price will define the bottom for used 1DsII pricing

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