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Photographing Toddlers?

 
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Dec 26, 2008 22:47 as a reply to post 6950265 |  #16

Examples:

Camera set in AV @ -2, flash probably at +1/3 bounced overhead. ISO 800, 1/100th at f/4. You can see I'm quite close to them in this shot.

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(And my wife was just shaking her head at our little actor. :lol:)

Camera set in M, metered the background and set the exposure to underexpose by 2 stops, flash at +1/3 bounced overhead. Taken at 8pm with no lights other than the Christmas tree lights on in that room. ISO 800, 1/60th at f/2.8.

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Dec 30, 2008 14:38 |  #17

cheers for all the tips here, i was trying to photograph my brothers twins over chrismas, i did the unthinkable and loaned my 430EX out because i did not think i would need it.


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Dec 30, 2008 23:39 |  #18

Using flash and Av and Tv exposes for the background. Mode P exposes for the foreground. Try bouncing the flash off of a wall or ceiling. Omnistoffen makes a small plastic attachment to diffuse the light making it softer.

I also shoot indoors with ISO of 400 with flash. If you can be next to a window with natural light, its even better.


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Jan 01, 2009 12:34 |  #19

I see that you mentioned AI focus. First get out of it, either use single shot or AI servo. AI Focus is total junk IMHO. One yr. old kids don't move that fast that you need AI servo, one shot more should be more than OK for indoor shots.


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Jan 22, 2009 15:17 as a reply to bobbyz's post |  #20

Love my 430EX, It's a steal at 200 bucks.

I recently took these of my friends nephews with the 430EX.

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Jan 23, 2009 17:28 |  #21

I take lots of indoor photos of my 3 year old. My solution agrees with the consensus on this thread -- get an external flash that can be bounced off a wall or ceiling. I also bought a few fast prime lenses (50 f/1.4, 35 f/2, etc.) but the external flash made the most difference as far as capturing a usable image. The primes helped alot for blurring the background which is a nice portrait effect.

Anyway, one problem I have is that I like taking both vertical and horizontal shots which means I have to re-orient the 430ex flash head depending on the orientation of the camera body. I've been looking into ways to use my 430ex as a wireless slave flash that is triggered remotely so the 430ex can sit on a table pointing at the ceiling regardless of the camera body orientation. The wireless solutions I've found so far (Canon ST-E2, RadioPopper, Alien Bees, etc.) are several hundred dollars.

As for choosing between the 430ex and 580ex, I think one difference is that the 580ex can trigger slave flashes using wireless E-TTL but the 430ex cannot. Check this link for tons of Canon EOS flash info: http://photonotes.org/​articles/eos-flash/external link


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Jan 23, 2009 20:13 as a reply to shaftmaster's post |  #22

For a solution with the speedlight.......in landscape, keep it pointed up and towards to the right. When you change to portrait it will still be firing straight and upwards.




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Feb 02, 2009 09:03 |  #23

Great shots everyone.

I do the opposite to most people in this thread - I shoot only with available light - window and occasionally the odd angle poise lamp, but with fast lenses. I think the 50mm would be a wonderful investment, it is my favorite length and the 1.8 is lovely and cheap. It takes a bit of practice working with such a shallow depth of field, particularly with small children who move so fast but once you get the hang of it it is incredibly liberating. It also really helps learn to 'see' the light if you are working with so little of it.

I also recommend one shot focus, particularly if shooting wide open, it seems to work much better.

Good luck, I am sure you will have a blast whatever you decide to get.

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Feb 03, 2009 12:38 |  #24

After reading the earlier post about photographing kids near a window, I realized I hadn't shot indoors without a bounce flash in quite a while. So, I decided to take some indoor shots with available light. Here are two of the better ones using my EF 50mm f/1.8 Mk1 lens.

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I think I will try some shots using table lamps and other artificial lighting to see if I can get some nice natural looking shots during the evening.

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Feb 04, 2009 09:48 |  #25

available light with a 50 1.4 and a toddler:

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I also have a flash now, but love love love window light and my 50mm!

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Feb 04, 2009 09:57 |  #26

As mentioned by everyone the two secrets for shooting toddlers is a 50mm (1.4 or 1.8 for good low light performance) and a speedlite (430 or 580). I have a 50mm f/1.4 & a 580EX II and I can shoot my 20m old son easily either with by themselves or together. If I use the 50 by itself, I am typically working on ambient light only, once I put the speedlite on I am bouncing it and trying to get soft light from all angles to mimic natural ambient light.

When using the 50mm, prepare to see a lot more noise if you are going to go without flash unless you have plenty of ambient light (lots more than you need to see with your own eyes) as you have to shoot with 800-1600+ ISO. Cameras perform very differently at this ISO range, the better the camera the better the performance.

With a speedlite you can shoot at 100 ISO if you want to, with very little low noise. Although you still may want to increase the ISO to allow in more ambient light to look more natural. I am still trying to perfect this balance, but spending the extra $160 on the better flash and $250 on the better 50mm lens was an investment I never regret.


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Feb 04, 2009 10:18 |  #27

This was taken at around midnight with absolutely no ambient light, I believe it might have been using my 550EX at the time rather than my new 580EX II. I bounced the light off the ceiling, got three frames, and my son never woke in the process. All and all you would never know there hardly enough light to even see there was a baby in the crib. Yet there isn't a lot of flash burn going on either.

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Feb 05, 2009 15:05 |  #28

Saxi: Wow! My kids would never forgive me if I did that, but it just shows you the power of having an external flash!

I have a 50mm 1.8 and a 430 EX, and they are keeping me busy busy trying to figure them out so I think that would be great for quite a while. I have an almost 2 year old and almost 1 year old that I [try to] take photos of.


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Feb 16, 2009 18:54 |  #29

I"m in agreement. I have teh 430 EX II and LOVE it. I bounce it off ceiling when possible, walls when not. I just took these shots using it the other day, in manual with a 5.6 ap and 250 shutterspeed. I also got a sto-fen to put on my flash, which softens it just enough to suit me.

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Like Saxi, this was shot with no ambient lighting whatsoever-lights out right after I put him to bed :) Bounced it at I think 90 degrees, maybe 60.

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the flash has been my wisest investment thus far. I've played with a nifty fifty, and even have on on its way to me for keepers, but can say that if I never bought any more equipment after buying the 430 EX II, I'd be "ok" :) (maybe not SATISFIED, but I could make do!)

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Feb 16, 2009 19:51 as a reply to post 6950265 |  #30

Few more with the nifty fifty and the 430EX

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