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Feb 09, 2010 18:28 |  #1

Good Day people,

Would like to know if Canon FD lenses be fitted to Canon EOS camera body ? Specifically 70-210 F4.

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Feb 09, 2010 18:35 |  #2

Simple answer, Yes, you must buy an adapter, but you won't want to do it because of severe limitations.


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Feb 09, 2010 18:50 |  #3

My question is would you lose quality and sharpness?




  
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Feb 09, 2010 19:04 |  #4

There are three basic types of FD to EOS adapters:

1) $1000 original Canon FD to EOS adapter with glass to correct for infinity focus. Quite sharp
2) $50 3rd party FD to EOS adapter with glass to correct for infinity focus. Very UNSHARP
3) $25 3rd party FD to EOS adapter without glass. Impossible to focus to infinity. Quite sharp


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Feb 09, 2010 20:10 |  #5

msowsun wrote in post #9577530 (external link)
There are three basic types of FD to EOS adapters:

1) $1000 original Canon FD to EOS adapter with glass to correct for infinity focus. Quite sharp
2) $50 3rd party FD to EOS adapter with glass to correct for infinity focus. Very UNSHARP
3) $25 3rd party FD to EOS adapter without glass. Impossible to focus to infinity. Quite sharp

#3 is going to be as sharp as the original lens. #2 is pretty darn bad. #1 is not only very expensive, but you do lose some quality, it is a 1.2x teleconverter, and you lose some light gathering power. Additionally it only works with certain lenses, all telephoto. I'm not sure if the 70-210 is in that list.

The issue is that the distance from the lens mount to the film (or sensor) was shorter on the FD lenses than it is on the EOS lenses. Same with old Minolta manual focus lenses and newer Minolta/Sony auto focus cameras.

You will actually have more success mounting Nikon, Contax/Yashica, or Olympus OM lenses than you will with Canon lenses. If you shoot a crop digital camera then Pentax and some others are a possibility.

You will only have manual focus with anything but an EOS lens, and you will have to use stop down metering. This means turning the aperture ring wide open to focus and compose, then dropping the aperture ring to the desired aperture (the viewfinder will get fairly dark if this is a smallish aperture) and then metering and taking the shot.


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Feb 10, 2010 05:12 |  #6

Some lenses will focus PAST infinity (such as the Sigma 600mm Mirror) so if you can find a thin enough EF to FD converter it will focus correctly to infinity without glass in the middle.

Just depends on the lens.

Some people have also modified the lens with a EF mount so no converter is needed.




  
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Feb 10, 2010 05:53 |  #7

Having just seen this thread, I've just stuck my 70-210 f4 FD lens on my 40D, stuck it out the bathroom window and taken a picture for you to see if it is worth buying an FD lens with an adapter.

The adapter I have has a correction lens fitted to allow focussing to infinity. You can also remove the lens if you are working more closely and want to improve the IQ of your images.

It's not a very inspiring subject, and it's a bit overcast here so the lighting is a touch flat, but hopefuly it will let you decide whether the IQ is good enough for you or not. For reference, the church is about 1/4 of a mile away, and the shot was taken with the following information:

Av priority mode with stopped down metering
Lens manually stopped down to f/8
ISO 200
No idea what the resulting shutter speed was - Exif info says it was 1/50s

A small amount of PP was done with a slight boost to contrast and a toch of unsharp mask.

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Whilst agreeing that this combination will never be the sharpest tool in your camera bag, I can't agree that the results will be very UNSHARP.
I've also seen some other EF fit lenses that would have struggled with chromatic aberration problems with this shot.

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Feb 10, 2010 07:39 |  #8

Sorarse wrote in post #9580279 (external link)
Having just seen this thread, I've just stuck my 70-210 f4 FD lens on my 40D, stuck it out the bathroom window and taken a picture for you to see if it is worth buying an FD lens with an adapter.

The adapter I have has a correction lens fitted to allow focussing to infinity. You can also remove the lens if you are working more closely and want to improve the IQ of your images.

It's not a very inspiring subject, and it's a bit overcast here so the lighting is a touch flat, but hopefuly it will let you decide whether the IQ is good enough for you or not. For reference, the church is about 1/4 of a mile away, and the shot was taken with the following information:

Av priority mode with stopped down metering
Lens manually stopped down to f/8
ISO 200
No idea what the resulting shutter speed was - Exif info says it was 1/50s

A small amount of PP was done with a slight boost to contrast and a toch of unsharp mask.

Full image reduced to meet forum size restrictions.
IMAGE NOT FOUND
HTTP response: 404 | MIME changed to 'text/html' | Byte size: ZERO


100% crop
QUOTED IMAGE

Whilst agreeing that this combination will never be the sharpest tool in your camera bag, I can't agree that the results will be very UNSHARP.
I've also seen some other EF fit lenses that would have struggled with chromatic aberration problems with this shot.

Impressive. One day I may just throw out the $30 to get one off ebay and try it out.


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Feb 10, 2010 11:18 |  #9

It's worth a punt. I got mine for £27 off ebay and it's virtually mint. I actually bought it to use on my old film cameras, but it's a bit of fun to use it on my Eos cameras from time to time.


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Feb 10, 2010 17:25 |  #10

If you want to use your old FD lenses on digital, get a MICRO FOUR THIRDS camera.

I use my Nikon lenses on my GF-1, and will probably also get a FD to MFT adapter. This will give you digital use of your old lenses with no degradation of optical quality.

Here's a couple shots of my GF-1 with some Nikon lenses. You could do the exact same thing with your FD lenses.

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Feb 10, 2010 21:59 |  #11

Thanks heaps guys...plenty of valuable info.

Cheers.


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Feb 10, 2010 22:53 |  #12

Sorarse wrote in post #9580279 (external link)
Having just seen this thread, I've just stuck my 70-210 f4 FD lens on my 40D, stuck it out the bathroom window and taken a picture for you to see if it is worth buying an FD lens with an adapter.

The adapter I have has a correction lens fitted to allow focussing to infinity. You can also remove the lens if you are working more closely and want to improve the IQ of your images.

It's not a very inspiring subject, and it's a bit overcast here so the lighting is a touch flat, but hopefuly it will let you decide whether the IQ is good enough for you or not. For reference, the church is about 1/4 of a mile away, and the shot was taken with the following information:

Av priority mode with stopped down metering
Lens manually stopped down to f/8
ISO 200
No idea what the resulting shutter speed was - Exif info says it was 1/50s

A small amount of PP was done with a slight boost to contrast and a toch of unsharp mask.

Full image reduced to meet forum size restrictions.
IMAGE NOT FOUND
HTTP response: 404 | MIME changed to 'text/html' | Byte size: ZERO


100% crop
QUOTED IMAGE

Whilst agreeing that this combination will never be the sharpest tool in your camera bag, I can't agree that the results will be very UNSHARP.
I've also seen some other EF fit lenses that would have struggled with chromatic aberration problems with this shot.

Wow! I want a view like that out of my bathroom window...




  
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Feb 11, 2010 04:15 as a reply to  @ MrsKitty's post |  #13

Got my converter from the link below. Give it a try, not a lot of cash if you don't like it.

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Feb 11, 2010 14:25 |  #14

Here is the super thin fd to ef no glass converter i use - it allowed me to focus infinity without having to use a glass converter on SOME lenses...

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Feb 11, 2010 14:34 |  #15

When you say 'wont focus to infinity', do you mean wont focus to infinity in AF?

Because if you can do it manually, I'd get one for video so I can use my FD primes


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