The Perfect Camera

[FlyingPhotog]

Originally Posted by mrgooch

You have an entirely new generation of camera uses. If it not for digital 90% would not own a camera.

You say this like it's a bad thing...

[mrgooch]

My point is too many digital camera uses expect a perfect picture every time without any input.

[breal101]

Originally Posted by mrgooch

My point is too many digital camera uses expect a perfect picture every time without any input.

I would certainly agree with you there. One of my favorites is people shooting portraits with an f/2 or lower lens wide open and expecting the camera to know which eye to focus on. They may be surprised to know that there is still a manual focus option on these things. I guess I'm too old school to understand.

[mrgooch]

I shot my first photo around 1956.

[breal101]

Originally Posted by mrgooch

I shot my first photo around 1956.

Wow, you have me by a few years then, my first serious pictures were with a mini Graphic in 1968 and my first SLR came the following year. To me there never was a perfect camera and probably never will be. We do the best we can with what we have. This section of the forum serves as amusement for me, my dad always use to say wish in one hand and spit in the other and see which one gets full first. OK, so he didn't say spit, he was a crude old dude.

[mrgooch]

I did have what I still believe to be one of the best and easiest to use cameras when it first came out around 1970.The Olympus OM1 35mm with a 50mm 1.8 lens.

[materialthings]

do you feel as if the digital camera changes what you see though?

[mrgooch]

The digital camera doesn't change it.What you see is in your own mind.

[krepta]

Originally Posted by FlyingPhotog

The mass of the body (IMO) helps with stability.

I've tried shooting a 300mm f/2.8 on an un-gripped 40D (as well as the 70-200 f/2.8L IS) and the results were less than stellar. Heavier body balances heavier lens better.

I agree. Heck, I don't even own a super-telephoto, but even with my 70-200 f/2.8L IS and the 17-55 IS, I find the weight much better balanced with the grip on (on both the 7D and 40D).

The bulk gives me a good mini-workout on a long day of shooting. I lift way more than that at the gym anyway!

On the 1D, the battery makes up the most of the vertical grip portion, doesn't it? So unless Canon drastically changes the battery design on the 1 series to make them much smaller, we won't see a smaller body design (like all the other series that have a separate battery grip) anytime soon.

[FlyingPhotog]

Correct. The "grip" on a MkIII basically IS the battery.

[KenjiS]

I'll admit this is a reason i ruled out just buying a used 1D-series cam or a 1D Mark III

I use my grip on my 30D 90% of the time, But theres that lovely 10% [And that might be growing soon now that im carrying it everywhere with my 15-85] that its nice to dump it at home

But honestly, thats a 5D or a 7D depending on how you want to look at it...

[Tareq]

I bought only one grip for my 350D and i hate it, the batteries run faster than one battery without grip, and also the camera looks it is not a true camera with that grip, even i hated to buy grip for my 30D or 5D classic, so i love the camera as it is, from 350D to 1D series i never have problems of the weight, in fact i consider all those Rebel/Xts/xxxD/xxxxD cameras as plastics, even my 30D and 5D classic i feel they are small toys against my 1D and MF cameras, last day in NYC i was walking with 1DsIII with different lenses changing on one shoulder and H3DII-39mp on the another shoulder and shooting street/urban, and the cops or police stopped me there because of that for questioning.

[Titus213]

Seems it wasn't too long ago folks were adding battery grips to everything they bought. Never could figure that out. I guess they think they looked cool and/or professional.

[amfoto1]

Originally Posted by Titus213

Seems it wasn't too long ago folks were adding battery grips to everything they bought. Never could figure that out. I guess they think they looked cool and/or professional.

Or because a gripped camera handles vertical shots much more nicely... and has battery power to shoot all day without a change.

[KenjiS]

Originally Posted by amfoto1

Or because a gripped camera handles vertical shots much more nicely... and has battery power to shoot all day without a change.

That and i like the feel of it better