How many shots do you take?

[canonloader]

It's not an insult, I have spent at least three years trying to describe to people that you can get frames showing action, whether it's motorsports, football or birds and animals, that you will never see shooting one shot. I guess you just have to see it for yourself to have it finally dawn on you that high frame rate and high dollars are there for a real world reason.

[Fenster]

2-300 per session, but as I work with children chimping is a must...

[Cadwell]

Originally Posted by Rekd

Why would you insult people like that?

It isn't meant to be an insult to anyone. I said that I don't believe that it takes much in the way of skill to do that so I choose not to shoot that way. That's my opinion and my choice. Others may have different opinions and make different choices and they're entitled to do so. It's all part of the debate that goes on here. We all have different opinions about the best way of doing things and the best way isn't the same for everyone.

You're a moderator.

You noticed! It was the bit that says "moderator" under the picture that gave it away, wasn't it?

[René Damkot]

Originally Posted by ryant35

When I get an order for images, I would rather have a few to choose from, or a few to deliver.

Well, that's about the whole difference, isn't it?

One person is talking about getting "more sellable images" (where 10fps helps), and the other is talking about getting "the perfect shot" (where good timing trumps whatever many fps). Remember: 10fps at 1/250s still means you miss 240/250s.

[Simon Harrison]

This debate could run and run, and at the end of the day, I really couldn't care less how anyone else shoots. You do what works for you and what gives you (or your client) what you need.

For what it's worth though my shooting style has me taking single shots 99% of the time. That is true for whether I shooting road racing, a rally, autograss (that's the UK version of dirt oval racing - plenty of bouncing around and dirt rooster tails too) or whatever. That shooting style has served me for years and allowed me to do paid work for national and local publications. I also rarely shoot anything over 1/320s. I also find I can still take 3 or 4 shots in very rapid succession with single shot mode anyway if I have to.

However, this is what works for me. If it doesn't work for someone else, fine. If someone else finds they are better served by rattling off dozens of frames of every car on every lap then that is also fine as far as I am concerned. I really couldn't care less.

The best use I have found for the 8 fps of my mk II is shooting podiums. It's amazing how easy it is to get someone with their eyes shut with single shots

[Simon Harrison]

Originally Posted by canonloader

It's not an insult, I have spent at least three years trying to describe to people that you can get frames showing action, whether it's motorsports, football or birds and animals, that you will never see shooting one shot. I guess you just have to see it for yourself to have it finally dawn on you that high frame rate and high dollars are there for a real world reason.

But you can also very easilly miss the peak action as well. I remember shooting a British Superbike session at Croft Circuit. Everytime Cal Crutchlow went down through the gears he was getting huge flames out of the exhaust on each downshift. I shot one long burst at 8 fps and knew from the fact I could see the flames in the viewfinder each time the mirror came down that I'd probably missed the best of the flames. I wasn't wrong.

[PhotosGuy]

Originally Posted by Rekd

Why would you insult people like that?

You're a moderator.

Me, too. I don't see it as an insult. Rather it's a statement of fact as he sees it.
Lighten up, & enjoy your stay here.

[Rekd]

Originally Posted by PhotosGuy

Me, too.

Hey, thanks!

[Bosscat]

Originally Posted by Cadwell

I don't believe that nailing down the shutter release, snapping 10 frames of a car coming around a corner and then picking the best one requires any level of skill

Have a go at sprint cars at night, shooting at 1/100th of a second, one shot at a time and see how that works out. In a 3 or 4 shot burst, you sometimes get nothing useable, do to the fact that there are 4 parts of the car shaking at different frequencies. The nose wing, the top wing, the car itself, and the driver being bounced around.. Sure, I could crank up the shutter speed, and turn on the flash like most do, but then I might as well just park the cars and stage the photos because this IS what that style of shooting looks like.

Sometimes you need to use all the tools in the toolbox to complete the project.

Just saying...

[GSH]

Originally Posted by PhotosGuy

Rather it's a statement of fact as he sees it.

Indeed. Lots of people on here will agree with Glenn and plenty will disagree. Shoot however you like and don't get so easily offended.

Personally speaking i stick with Single shot for Motorsports, but on my rare ventures into (proper) Football and Rugby, i use high speed drive when necessary.

Horses for courses etc.

[pwm2]

On general (all photo subjects) I expect 1 in 10-30 to be printed. I don't like deleting photos, so the disks are getting filled and many of the photos not printed are very close to the ones I do print. I just figure that it is better to have taken a photo too much than a photo too little.

[pwm2]

I really do hope that moderators are allowed to have an opinion. Or it would be quite dull to be a moderator.

[Mike Hoyer]

Originally Posted by Simon Harrison

But you can also very easilly miss the peak action as well. I remember shooting a British Superbike session at Croft Circuit. Everytime Cal Crutchlow went down through the gears he was getting huge flames out of the exhaust on each downshift. I shot one long burst at 8 fps and knew from the fact I could see the flames in the viewfinder each time the mirror came down that I'd probably missed the best of the flames. I wasn't wrong.

On the flipside, I was at an event a couple of days ago. Out of all the cars, one of them was bottoming out in a certain corner, and shooting up a load of sparks. I was only able to get it by rapid firing when I thought he was in about the right place, out of 8 shots, two had the sparks!

Other times however, I've done the same for sparks, flames, or whatever, and missed it all. Sometimes you get lucky...