Approve the Cookies
This website uses cookies to improve your user experience. By using this site, you agree to our use of cookies. Read More.
OK
Index  •   • New posts  •   • RTAT  •   • 'Best of'  •   • Gallery  •   • Gear  •   • Reviews
New posts  •   • RTAT  •   • 'Best of'  •   • Gallery  •   • Gear  •   • Reviews
Register to forums    Log in

 
FORUMS Photography Talk by Genre Weddings & Other Family Events Talk
Thread started 17 Mar 2011 (Thursday) 14:15
Prev/next
sponsored links
(this ad will go away when you log in as registered member)

Lens Suggestions for Engagement Photos

 
Tiggity-T
Member
219 posts
Joined Nov 2008
Mar 17, 2011 14:15 |  #1

My brother-in-law wants me to shoot his engagement photos because A)I have a camera and B)I'm free. I am by all means an amateur but he's seen what I've shot of my own family and decided that's good enough for him.

I don't necessarily have portrait quality lenses, so I plan to rent one for the session. I am shooting on a 7D body, so the 1.6 crop is my sticking point. My three choices and reasoning are:

85mm 1.8 - Best bokeh and sharp, but effectively a 136mm
50mm 1.4 - 2nd best bokeh, also sharp and only 80mm after crop.
24-70 2.8 - Most versatile but not as good of bokeh.

All input is appreciated.


7D, 18-55mm f/3.5-5.6 IS, 70-300 f/4-5.6 IS USM, 580EX, 50 1.4 USM, 2̶4̶-̶1̶0̶5̶ ̶f̶/̶4̶, S̶i̶g̶m̶a̶ ̶5̶0̶ ̶f̶/̶1̶.̶4̶,̶ 4̶3̶0̶E̶X̶

LOG IN TO REPLY
sponsored links
(this ad will go away when you log in as registered member)
gonzogolf
dumb remark memorialized
28,854 posts
Joined Dec 2006
Mar 17, 2011 14:19 |  #2

Use your nifty and save the lens rental until you actually need to rent something. Engagement photos give you plenty of latitude to work with the nifty.




LOG IN TO REPLY
jcolman
Goldmember
Joined Mar 2008
North Carolina
Mar 17, 2011 14:30 |  #3

85. You already have a 50. Play with the 85 at f/2ish for some nice bokeh. The next best thing to get is a reflector or off camera speedlight if you really want to step up your game.


www.jimcolmanphotograp​hy.comexternal link

LOG IN TO REPLY
Tiggity-T
THREAD ­ STARTER
Member
219 posts
Joined Nov 2008
Mar 17, 2011 15:31 as a reply to jcolman's post |  #4

I should have added that I am not to confident in my nifty fifty. Not sure if its me or the lens, but half of the time its out of focus or at best, soft. I tried to do the micro-adjustment with the 7D but it would focus consistently enough to get any valid results. No other lens has given me issue like it, but it was cheap so I don't complain much, so I would prefer to rent a good quality lens for $20 rather than risk the shots all being OOF because of hardware.

@jcolman Thanks for the tip on the lighting. I actually forgot to add that to my tag. I have a 430ex speedlight that I can use off camera, but I would like to get reflectors too. I can rent a pack for $5.

Also, I thought about starting the shoot first thing in the morning when the light is less harsh and would have some nice glow and shadows, then work with them as the morning progressed if the lighting didn't work well. Is that a good strategy?


7D, 18-55mm f/3.5-5.6 IS, 70-300 f/4-5.6 IS USM, 580EX, 50 1.4 USM, 2̶4̶-̶1̶0̶5̶ ̶f̶/̶4̶, S̶i̶g̶m̶a̶ ̶5̶0̶ ̶f̶/̶1̶.̶4̶,̶ 4̶3̶0̶E̶X̶

LOG IN TO REPLY
gonzogolf
dumb remark memorialized
28,854 posts
Joined Dec 2006
Mar 17, 2011 15:33 |  #5

I suspect its a technique issue as your nifty is the only lens in your kit that can get really shallow DOF. Renting another fast lens is going to be the same problem only potentially worse. Can you show us a problem shot taken with the nifty?




LOG IN TO REPLY
IUnknown
Senior Member
737 posts
Joined Jun 2007
Mar 17, 2011 15:56 |  #6

If your going to rent, go for the best and start collecting portfolio work. 35L and 85LII would make for a great session.


Fiske | Filmexternal link
5D Mark II | Canon 70-200mm f/2.8L IS USM | Canon 35L | Sigma 85 1.4 | Helios 44M-6 58mm(M42) | Zeiss 50mm 1.4 (C/Y) | LEICA 50MM SUMMICRON-R F2 | Canon 135L | Elmoscope anamorphic lens | 430EX II

LOG IN TO REPLY
jcolman
Goldmember
Joined Mar 2008
North Carolina
Mar 17, 2011 17:39 |  #7

Tiggity-T wrote in post #12039473external link
Also, I thought about starting the shoot first thing in the morning when the light is less harsh and would have some nice glow and shadows, then work with them as the morning progressed if the lighting didn't work well. Is that a good strategy?

Yes, but I usually do just the opposite. I start in the late afternoon. The more I shoot, the better the light gets. But I've done dawn e-sessions and got some beautiful light.


www.jimcolmanphotograp​hy.comexternal link

LOG IN TO REPLY
Peacefield
Goldmember
Peacefield's Avatar
4,022 posts
Joined Jul 2008
NJ
Mar 18, 2011 07:16 |  #8

I'd get the 24-70. Yeah, not as good bokeh, but who cares and the difference isn't that dramatic. Plus, you want to be able to mix things up and get wide from time to time (though 24mm on a 1.6 isn't really very wide).


Robert Wayne Photographyexternal link

5D3, 5D2, 50D, 350D * 16-35 2.8 II, 24-70 2.8 II, 70-200 2.8 IS II, 100-400 IS, 100 L Macro, 35 1.4, 85 1.2 II, 135 2.0, Tokina 10-17 fish * 580 EX II (3) Stratos triggers * Other Stuff plus a Pelican 1624 to haul it all

LOG IN TO REPLY
iamchanel
Member
iamchanel's Avatar
82 posts
Joined Dec 2010
Nation's Capital
Mar 19, 2011 21:56 as a reply to Peacefield's post |  #9

You can actually shoot the entire thing with your 50 ...


My Blog :-)external link
Let's Be Friends :)external link

LOG IN TO REPLY
PMCphotography
Goldmember
PMCphotography's Avatar
1,775 posts
Joined Sep 2009
Tasmania, Australia.
Mar 21, 2011 02:27 |  #10

You could very easily do the whole thing with the nifty.


Twitterexternal link
Hobart Wedding Photographyexternal link
I have some camera stuff. Here it is.

LOG IN TO REPLY
PhotoMatte
Goldmember
PhotoMatte's Avatar
1,635 posts
Joined Jun 2008
Go Ducks!
Mar 21, 2011 23:57 |  #11

I was going to say use the 85mm for sure, until I saw you were using a crop-body and your nifty-fifty would actually be a nifty-eighty on the 7D. So use the Nifty!


the siteexternal link
the blogexternal link
Smugmugexternal link
My gear: Canon, Macintosh, Adobe

LOG IN TO REPLY
nicksan
Man I Like to Fart
nicksan's Avatar
24,650 posts
Joined Oct 2006
NYC
Mar 22, 2011 10:20 |  #12

You probably don't need to rent anything.
Also, don't rule out using the 70-300 at the longer end to get some bokeh and nice compression.
Definitely bring the flash for fill.


NYC Wedding Photographerexternal link | Blogexternal link | facebookexternal link | Flickrexternal link | Gear

LOG IN TO REPLY
ggalluppi
Senior Member
ggalluppi's Avatar
392 posts
Joined Sep 2009
NJ
Mar 22, 2011 11:11 |  #13

Don't stress too much on the gear for your first time out. You're going to be thinking about which lens to use the entire time. Bring what you have and just have fun. The nice thing is, your shooting for family. If you screw up, just go out and shoot it again. Make sure you capture the couple as best you can with the equipment you have. Focus on them and not the gear. Once you do it a few times than start renting or adding things you may think you'll need next time out. If you're out there trying to figure out which lens to use, which reflector, how to hold the reflector, etc, you will lose confindence very quickly and most importantly the couple will too.




LOG IN TO REPLY
Dan ­ Barron ­ Photography
Junior Member
Dan Barron Photography's Avatar
26 posts
Joined Feb 2011
Newcastle
Mar 23, 2011 16:19 |  #14

nifty fifty all the way


Dan Barron Photographyexternal link
Wedding Photography Newcastleexternal link
Photographers Newcastleexternal link

LOG IN TO REPLY
patrickf117
Cream of the Crop
patrickf117's Avatar
Joined Sep 2010
Orange, CA.
Mar 23, 2011 19:05 |  #15

agreed w/ the poster above....the nifty can do the job.


Optics: 400 f2.8L MKII - 300 f4L IS - 70-200 f2.8L - 24-70 f2.8L - 135 f2L - 17-40 f4L - EF 1.4xII 2.xII
Body & Heat: 1DsMKII/1DMKII/5D-BGE4/40D-BGE2N/580EXII/430EXII
CPS Gold Member
flickrexternal link

LOG IN TO REPLY
sponsored links
(this ad will go away when you log in as registered member)

4,322 views & 0 likes for this thread
Lens Suggestions for Engagement Photos
FORUMS Photography Talk by Genre Weddings & Other Family Events Talk


Not a member yet? Click here to register to the forums.
Registered members get all the features: search, following threads, own gear list and ratings, likes, more forums, private messaging, thread follow, notifications, own gallery, settings, view hosted photos, own reviews and more...


AAA

Send feedback to staff    •   Jump to forum...    •   Rules    •   Index    •   New posts    •   RTAT    •   'Best of'    •   Gallery    •   Gear    •   Reviews    •   Polls

COOKIES DISCLAIMER: This website uses cookies to improve your user experience. By using this site, you agree to our use of cookies. Privacy policy and cookie usage info.

POWERED BY AMASS 1.4version 1.4
made in Finland
by Pekka Saarinen
for photography-on-the.net
Spent 0.00101 for 4 database queries.
PAGE COMPLETED IN 0.03s
Latest registered member is Sixpacker
745 guests, 430 members online
Simultaneous users record so far is 6106, that happened on Jun 09, 2016