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Andy ­ R
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Apr 29, 2011 12:55 |  #1

Ive seen amazing stuff done with each of these lenses, but i cant decide. Conidering I can foot zoom, so focal length isnt to big of an issue, what one would give a shallower DOF and the best bokeh* for portraits?


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Apr 29, 2011 13:00 |  #2

135L with a 1.4x tc will get you 189mm f/2.8 which is essentially the same as the 200 f/2.8


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Apr 29, 2011 13:06 |  #3

lol it's bokeh not bokha

if you want big bokeh, everything blurred into oblivion, just make sure your subject is as close to you and as far away from the background as possible. that will work even for a 50mm at f4.

just pick the focal length that will work for you. i wouldn't worry about getting thinner DOF and bigger bokeh. both could be managed.


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Apr 29, 2011 13:11 |  #4

ni$mo350 wrote in post #12317073external link
135L with a 1.4x tc will get you 189mm f/2.8 which is essentially the same as the 200 f/2.8

But from most samples I've seen the 135L doesn't take tc's very well.

EDIT; To answer your question, give the same distance from subject 200mm f2.8 gives a smaller region of focus than a 135 f2, but since you will likely back up more with a longer lens, who really knows? =)


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Apr 29, 2011 13:11 |  #5

This is impossible to answer without more information. These 2 magnificent lenses are like twins, both very sharp, both have excellent bokeh and both are inconspicuously black. (the 135mm with a 1.4 won't be as sharp as the 200mm 2.8). It just depends which focal length you need more. Either way you can't go wrong.




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Apr 29, 2011 13:13 |  #6

i didnt ask for "big" i asked about best...i know i can get everything blury quite easly with the 50mm 1.4 i have and the 5d, but it offen looks scrambled and not nice smooth bokeh which is what im after


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Apr 29, 2011 13:14 |  #7

I'll have to look into that because I thought it didn't affect iq that much with the 1.4x. The 2x is a different story and wouldn't suggest that combo at all.


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Apr 29, 2011 13:14 |  #8

Andy R wrote in post #12317140external link
i didnt ask for "big" i asked about best...i know i can get everything blury quite easly with the 50 i have and the 5d, but it offen looks scrambled and not nice smooth bokeh which is what im after

Out of curiosity what looks scrambled? Some subjects are difficult for any lens, tree branches come to mind as having a "scrambled" look even on lenses that otherwise produce very smooth bokeh.


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Apr 29, 2011 13:17 |  #9

Well the 135L is the best lens I've ever used. It's the best purchase I've made. It's simply my favorite lens and makes it hard to take a bad shot. I'd feel too limited by a 200mm fixed fl for what I shoot but it comes down to what you shoot.


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Apr 29, 2011 13:18 |  #10

I would take 135mm f2. 200mm will need more space and you can't go back lot of times. But if you looking for blurred bg then I would think both will be close. Sometimes longer focal length helps even if slower lens.

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Apr 29, 2011 13:19 |  #11

thats kind of what i was thinking with 200 being to long for me, i tried walking around with my old 70-200f4 at 200 and it seamed tight, but then again 135 seamed a little wide often...tough decisions...

as for the scrambled look yeah tree branches among other things....


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Apr 29, 2011 16:18 |  #12

Canon EF 135mm f/2L USM




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Apr 29, 2011 16:41 |  #13

bobbyz wrote in post #12317164 (external link)
I would take 135mm f2. 200mm will need more space and you can't go back lot of times. But if you looking for blurred bg then I would think both will be close. Sometimes longer focal length helps even if slower lens.

Here is one with 70-200mmf 2.8 IS II.
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Nice bokeh! What focal length was that shot at? Sorry i don't have the EXIF reader on Chrome.


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Apr 29, 2011 16:54 |  #14

you forgot an alternative in the poll; both...
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Apr 29, 2011 17:01 |  #15

XxDJCyberLoverxX wrote in post #12318131external link
Nice bokeh! What focal length was that shot at? Sorry i don't have the EXIF reader on Chrome.

Used my EXIF reader and it states 150mm @f/2.8 . Not bad.


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